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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herobizkit" data-source="post: 5120639" data-attributes="member: 36150">I'm a far cry from a Character Optimizer, though there are CharOp forums dedicated to people who try to milk the most out of each class.Rogue/Lok isn't a bad build at all, it just doesn't do exactly what you wanted.  You would just need to come up with a way to make your sneak attack count - like, say, walk unseen (a Lesser Invocation that works the same as invisibility, and you can use it as many times as you want, forever).  One round, poof, next round, surprise!  Rinse and repeat.  If you wanted to get into melee and mix it up, you could take hideous blow and channel your 'zot' into your melee attack and get sneak attack on top that way.  It's what I plan to do with my Duskblade (except, of course, he's not a rogue, but has a reach weapon instead).If you like the ranged combatant idea, throwing some Sorcerer on there in place of Rogue might not be a bad idea.  Heck, you might even go crazy and go straight Warlock.If you want more melee oomph, I still recommend Paladin of Freedom/Warlock (but you'd need to be Chaotic Good, I believe). You could still do the hideous blow shtick, but no sneak attack.  With a Greatsword (2d6), you'd be doing an extra 2d or 3d6 per swing, depending on how many levels of Lok you take.  I would go either Pal 5/Lok 3 or Lok 5/Pal 3, depending on your focus.</blockquote>