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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Netherstorm" data-source="post: 5732365" data-attributes="member: 84943">The Red Box had a nice price, but didn't seem too effective. The Pathfinder box is more expensive, but man it is really great. The flip mat and the stand-up counters are fantastic. I get this weird feeling in our post-Essentials environment like we're adrift. Wizards puts out one main book every 2-3 months, and spends the build-up trying to hype it up with encounters and article tie-ins. But if you just have no interest in that book, like Neverwinter, then you're sitting around for four months with no books to buy when you're used to having a book a month you wanted to buy. Yes there's dungeon and dragon to keep you occupied, but now they're having 'theme' issues like the kara-tur one. So for me, who has no interest in kara-tur or neverwinter, there's not a lot for me to spend my money or time on.I think wizards could be putting out a lot of cool stuff. I could use an epic handbook very badly. I'd like a new adventure path. I'd like more Vor Rukoth-style books expounding on things like the 4e isle of dread and Kalandurren. I guess what's strangest is that they put out the Red Box and Essentials line to draw new people in, and then they didn't put out much adventure and source material for those people to buy and use! It makes me wonder if the red box and essentials sold really poorly.</blockquote>