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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 5734755" data-attributes="member: 37579">I enjoy all this discussion breaking things down by price and comparing which has more value. Which doesn't mention the Red Box becoming hard to find and having an inflated price on the secondary market, which skews the whole exercise until it becomes available again.I think the PF BB is a slightly better option. If you buy the books - which has been pointed out as optional with the free online resources - it will be more expensive. The combination of Beastiary, Core Book and BB is steeper than the Red Box, DMK, MV, and one of the Heroes of Adjective Noun books. That said, I think the value in the PF BB is what else you have. Once you've bought everything, if you're a 4e player you have all the tokens you need from the DMK and MV, and you have all the PC rules. The Red Box becomes vestigial. Superflous.With the PFBB you still have the cardboard standies. And the flipmat. And I think the PFBB has the advantage of tiding you over for longer. You don't have to save much to buy the Red Box. It's cheap. But it doesn't last long. Three or four sessions and you have to go buy the new book. And since the other books are so cheap, if you have the spare $20 it's almost easier to buy one of the player books and skip the Red Box altogether.The PFBB will last you longer. It's an investment but you have the time after to save and scrimp. And both make excellent gifts. But with the Red Box you're giving a gift that will last a long weekend then get closeted as they need to go buy more books. With the PFBB, you're giving a gift that will last 2-3 times as long.</blockquote>

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