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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 5308087" data-attributes="member: 66434">The major difference being that, in the 80's there were two separate product lines; D&amp;D and AD&amp;D. The Holmes book was indeed a mishmash product caught between the two lines. The Moldvay and Mentzer sets were clearly presented and non AD&amp;D focused. This time there is only one line, just D&amp;D and new players shouldn't have to be subjected to this kind of confusion.&nbsp;The important feature about these sets was that they were the actual D&amp;D game for the limited levels that they covered. Expert, Companion, and other future sets built on and added to the basic box but never invalidated it. With the basic set you could run a full campaign, limited to 3rd level and largely in the dungeon of course.&nbsp;The problem with every WOTC starter set is that it has little to zero value once the supporting product is released. The maps and tokens are reusable but that's about it. I'm not saying that the starter set should have had exclusive rules content or anything (which would have made it mandatory for experienced players) but enough info to make it into a replayable set with concise character creation even if the options are really limited. &nbsp;A little more time spent making this set more complete and compatible with later product would have had a huge impact on the quality and utility of this product.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 5308087, member: 66434"] The major difference being that, in the 80's there were two separate product lines; D&D and AD&D. The Holmes book was indeed a mishmash product caught between the two lines. The Moldvay and Mentzer sets were clearly presented and non AD&D focused. This time there is only one line, just D&D and new players shouldn't have to be subjected to this kind of confusion. The important feature about these sets was that they [I]were [/I]the actual D&D game for the limited levels that they covered. Expert, Companion, and other future sets built on and added to the basic box but never invalidated it. With the basic set you could run a full campaign, limited to 3rd level and largely in the dungeon of course. The problem with every WOTC starter set is that it has little to zero value once the supporting product is released. The maps and tokens are reusable but that's about it. I'm not saying that the starter set should have had exclusive rules content or anything (which would have made it mandatory for experienced players) but enough info to make it into a [I]replayable [/I]set with concise character creation even if the options are really limited. A little more time spent making this set more complete and compatible with later product would have had a huge impact on the quality and utility of this product. [/QUOTE]

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