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<blockquote data-quote="Festivus" data-source="post: 5308235" data-attributes="member: 34532">I consider a few things when looking at this set:I really like that it requires nobody to instruct you as to how to play, it takes you through an adventure that you can read by yourself to get oriented to how to play the game and afterwards you have a viable character.&nbsp; The (low) price of the product probably dictated what could fit into the product, and it was very likely a trade off to keep the price down yet have something that new players would enjoy.&nbsp; It is a starter set after all.&nbsp; My expectation is that whenever I am looking at a starter, it's going to be limited in what it can do, it's a sample of the game, not the full game.There is an adventure packaged is there not?&nbsp; Does that not count for several hours of fun?&nbsp; How long would it take to play through the adventure?&nbsp; Divide that by the number of participants and figure out the fun for value... I am willing to bet it's a pretty good deal when compared to almost anything else.It includes everything you need to run that game.&nbsp; Tokens, maps, adventure, character sheets, and dice.&nbsp; If I wasn't playing D&amp;D and spotted this in the store, I would think it was really great that it included everything... otherwise I would return it as a piece of crap that wasn't playable.Lastly... we ENWorld folks are not really the primary target of this product. In fact, I don't think even our friends and family are the target of this product unless they live far away.&nbsp; Because our friends and family would ask us about D&amp;D if they were interested and we would probably say &quot;Here is what you need... PHB (or rules compendium), Heroes of the fallen lands, etc&quot; instead of saying buy the red box.&nbsp; If you had someone far away where you couldn't be there to show them how to play... which product would you direct them to?Anyhow, I plan on picking up the red box to check it out, and probably will get some copies as gifts to give out this holiday season to my friends and family who do not play D&amp;D and live far away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Festivus, post: 5308235, member: 34532"] I consider a few things when looking at this set: I really like that it requires nobody to instruct you as to how to play, it takes you through an adventure that you can read by yourself to get oriented to how to play the game and afterwards you have a viable character. The (low) price of the product probably dictated what could fit into the product, and it was very likely a trade off to keep the price down yet have something that new players would enjoy. It is a starter set after all. My expectation is that whenever I am looking at a starter, it's going to be limited in what it can do, it's a sample of the game, not the full game. There is an adventure packaged is there not? Does that not count for several hours of fun? How long would it take to play through the adventure? Divide that by the number of participants and figure out the fun for value... I am willing to bet it's a pretty good deal when compared to almost anything else. It includes everything you need to run that game. Tokens, maps, adventure, character sheets, and dice. If I wasn't playing D&D and spotted this in the store, I would think it was really great that it included everything... otherwise I would return it as a piece of crap that wasn't playable. Lastly... we ENWorld folks are not really the primary target of this product. In fact, I don't think even our friends and family are the target of this product unless they live far away. Because our friends and family would ask us about D&D if they were interested and we would probably say "Here is what you need... PHB (or rules compendium), Heroes of the fallen lands, etc" instead of saying buy the red box. If you had someone far away where you couldn't be there to show them how to play... which product would you direct them to? Anyhow, I plan on picking up the red box to check it out, and probably will get some copies as gifts to give out this holiday season to my friends and family who do not play D&D and live far away. [/QUOTE]

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