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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5312381" data-attributes="member: 7006">Well, let me help you out here then......a disappointmentTo you.&nbsp; Someone who has played rpgs for 20 years, as your sig suggests.&nbsp; But you are not the targeted demo of this Red Box....a missed opportunityTo produce a game that could be played by itself, never wanting or requiring additional purchase.&nbsp; That is an opportunity that I personally would gladly have them miss so that they'll actually sell more stuff and stay in business....par for the WotC courseThat they produce things that aren't geared for you and your 20 years of experience and knowledge of the rpg industry....a demonstration that WotC continues to successfully avoid influence from Hasbro to its detrimentIronic statement, in that most people would claim WotC is almost always supposedly beholden to Hasbro's &quot;Evil Corporation Practices!!!&quot; that attempts to squeeze as much money out of the little guy as possible.&nbsp; To say that WotC isn't being influenced by Hasbro is actually going out on a limb there....a demonstration that WotC continues to successfully avoid learning the right lessons from its past successes and failures to its detrimentSeeing as how they are still in business and are still able to produce games (which many game companies cannot say the same), I think they've learned quite a number of the right lessons....probably going to do more harm than good to D&amp;D and 4E long-termWhich has been claimed by people ever since the company bought the D&amp;D property in the first place, which means your prognostication is one in a long line of ones that we'll discover to be a little off the mark.&nbsp;...at best going to be a very moderate success in terms of bringing new and lapsed players to the game (it will probably be profitable on its own since so little was invested in it).Probably the most accurate statement you made.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5312381, member: 7006"] Well, let me help you out here then... ...[I]a disappointment[/I] To you. Someone who has played rpgs for 20 years, as your sig suggests. But you are not the targeted demo of this Red Box. ...[I]a missed opportunity[/I] To produce a game that could be played by itself, never wanting or requiring additional purchase. That is an opportunity that I personally would [I]gladly[/I] have them miss so that they'll actually sell more stuff and stay in business. ...[I]par for the WotC course[/I] That they produce things that aren't geared for you and your 20 years of experience and knowledge of the rpg industry. ...[I]a demonstration that WotC continues to successfully avoid influence from Hasbro to its detriment[/I] Ironic statement, in that most people would claim WotC is almost always supposedly beholden to Hasbro's "Evil Corporation Practices!!!" that attempts to squeeze as much money out of the little guy as possible. To say that WotC [I]isn't[/I] being influenced by Hasbro is actually going out on a limb there. ...[I]a demonstration that WotC continues to successfully avoid learning the right lessons from its past successes and failures to its detriment[/I] Seeing as how they are still in business and are still able to produce games (which many game companies cannot say the same), I think they've learned quite a number of the right lessons. ...[I]probably going to do more harm than good to D&D and 4E long-term[/I] Which has been claimed by people ever since the company bought the D&D property in the first place, which means your prognostication is one in a long line of ones that we'll discover to be a little off the mark. ...[I]at best going to be a very moderate success in terms of bringing new and lapsed players to the game (it will probably be profitable on its own since so little was invested in it).[/I] Probably the most accurate statement you made. [/QUOTE]

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