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<blockquote data-quote="nnms" data-source="post: 5312794" data-attributes="member: 83293">That's bull.&nbsp; Have you actually played it?&nbsp; It is a complete game in of itself.&nbsp; And in that game, you make characters that are the most long lived and iconic race/class combinations ever (the same ones you'll find in Mentzer + a few more options because class and race are now separate).&nbsp; You go on adventures, kill monsters and take their stuff.&nbsp; Spend time in a dungeon.&nbsp; The DM book has monsters and advice on making your own adventures.It's missing shopping.&nbsp; Using items other than what you start with.&nbsp; And then the only other problem is that the PC classes differ from Heroes of the Fallen Lands.&nbsp; The transition for players will be jarring.&nbsp; Also, the level of typos and small errors is quite high.It's not a $20 advertisement that you pay to see.&nbsp; For $15 WotC sells a single adventure with a poster map.&nbsp; For $5 more, you get monster tokens, a how-to-DM booklet, simplified character creation, dice, power cards, character sheets, all in a box instead of shrink wrapped.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nnms, post: 5312794, member: 83293"] That's bull. Have you actually played it? It is a complete game in of itself. And in that game, you make characters that are the most long lived and iconic race/class combinations ever (the same ones you'll find in Mentzer + a few more options because class and race are now separate). You go on adventures, kill monsters and take their stuff. Spend time in a dungeon. The DM book has monsters and advice on making your own adventures. It's missing shopping. Using items other than what you start with. And then the only other problem is that the PC classes differ from Heroes of the Fallen Lands. The transition for players will be jarring. Also, the level of typos and small errors is quite high. It's not a $20 advertisement that you pay to see. For $15 WotC sells a single adventure with a poster map. For [B]$5 more[/B], you get monster tokens, a how-to-DM booklet, simplified character creation, dice, power cards, character sheets, all in a box instead of shrink wrapped. [/QUOTE]

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