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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 5314331" data-attributes="member: 32164">Well, I asked that the ops make the title of this thread as &quot;Constructive Criticism&quot; for a reason. It's very easy to pick the box apart, or take the knee-jerk response of defending it against all criticism.I feel the Red Box is the best D&amp;D Starter Set in ages. But frankly, it's just not up to the standards set by its illustrious predecessor.As others have pointed out, the Dragon Age boxed set provides a lot more than 50% more gameplay for $30 (compared to the Red Box's $20). Also as others have said, the production value is higher: yes, it lacks battle maps and &quot;fiddly bits,&quot; but it comes across as being higher quality. In addition, the layout is better, the game is presented in a reasonably straight-forward manner, and it's the complete system, even though the box only presents the first 5 levels. The biggest difference? The Dragon Age set has two 64 page books with real covers, rather than one 32-page book and one 64 page one without said covers.I still prefer the D&amp;D system (I started with D&amp;D and I love rolling that d20...), but I'd sure as hell like to see a Dungeons &amp; Dragons Starter Set that compares to what Green Ronin did with Dragon Age. For what that game provides, even if they had to raise the price to $30 to pull that off (I don't think that'd be necessary), it'd be worth it. The only reasons Dragon Age isn't gonna eat WotC's lunch are: 1) It's not D&amp;D, and the brand still means something; and, 2) Because of its association with Hasbro, Wizards has a distribution network Green Ronin simply can't match.But I wish WotC would at least act like they have to work to stay at the top of the RPG industry. Some real competition would probably be good for the RPG industry. IF it drove WotC to step up their game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 5314331, member: 32164"] Well, I asked that the ops make the title of this thread as "Constructive Criticism" for a reason. It's very easy to pick the box apart, or take the knee-jerk response of defending it against all criticism. I feel the Red Box is the best [I]D&D Starter Set[/I] in ages. But frankly, it's just not up to the standards set by its illustrious predecessor. As others have pointed out, the [I]Dragon Age[/I] boxed set provides a lot more than 50% more gameplay for $30 (compared to the Red Box's $20). Also as others have said, the production value is higher: yes, it lacks battle maps and "fiddly bits," but it comes across as being higher quality. In addition, the layout is better, the game is presented in a reasonably straight-forward manner, and it's the complete system, even though the box only presents the first 5 levels. The biggest difference? The [I]Dragon Age[/I] set has [B][I]two[/I][/B] 64 page books with real covers, rather than one 32-page book and one 64 page one without said covers. I still prefer the [I]D&D[/I] [I][B]system[/B][/I] (I started with [I]D&D[/I] and I love rolling that d20...), but I'd sure as hell like to see a [I]Dungeons & Dragons Starter Set[/I] that compares to what Green Ronin did with [I]Dragon Age[/I]. For what that game provides, even if they had to raise the price to $30 to pull that off (I don't think that'd be necessary), it'd be worth it. The only reasons [I]Dragon Age[/I] isn't gonna eat WotC's lunch are: 1) It's not D&D, and the brand still means something; and, 2) Because of its association with Hasbro, Wizards has a distribution network Green Ronin simply can't match. But I wish WotC would at least [I]act[/I] like they have to work to stay at the top of the RPG industry. Some real competition would probably be good for the RPG industry. IF it drove WotC to step up their game. [/QUOTE]

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