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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hastur_nz" data-source="post: 7098013" data-attributes="member: 40592">Just a note on Red Hand of Doom, which I played through and then did a little reading of and on some time later....Red Hand of Doom doesn't really have anything to do with Tiamat, until near the end when you've pretty much crushed the hobgoblin armies, and you finally hear about how Tiamat is the BBEG behind their attempt to crush humanity.  So if you only play the part up to then, you are playing a campaign which has nothing to do with Tiamat.  Which is totally fine, but just be aware that you have a very long lead-in before your players will see anything to do with Tiamat, and, just like in the full-blown Red Hand of Doom adventure, chances are you get a plot disconnect, unless you've deliberately worked in various more specific hooks towards the fact that Tiamat is behind all the initial troubles.  From my reading, and recollection as a player, that's about the only real complain people have about the campaign - it's a sudden jump in style and plot, from battling the armies, to going into the Fane of Tiamat.That said, pretty much all the long-running Adventure Paths I know of (and I've DM'd a few), suffer the same problem - the initial levels are a long set-up, only vaguely linked to what comes next.  While there's nothing wrong with this, and often the initial levels are incredibly fun and formative, you do always run the risk of having a very long-running campaign where DM and/or players are looking forward to what might come next rather than enjoy what's planned for somewhere in the future.  For example, if your players want "fight Tiamat", why not just start with PC's around 8th level, who have found out about something that hints at Tiamat's diabolical plans, and take it from there...?</blockquote>

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