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<blockquote data-quote="LuisCarlos17f" data-source="post: 8489390" data-attributes="member: 6802378"><p>Do you ask about the people of Tenochtitlan? Then I can answer about how lots of indigineous Americans helped Hernan Cortez against Aztec empire, for example the Tlaxcaltecs, and with this the end of the human sacrifices. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">I wonder if you can find a native Northamerican from XIX centure who would rather to live in a English-speaker Indian reversvation than in a mission funded by Catholic Spanish-speakers missionaries? </span></p><p></p><p>Don't you understand? For me this is like a walking-dead zombi reporting every full moon the werewolves bite people and eat kitties. I am not who should be ashamed and feeling guilty while we are silent about the actions by others. If you don't allow the Otoman empire to be the antagonist faction but a Catholic bishop or Spanish conquerors can appear like the bad guys of the story, then that is double standar. I am tired. I think others should be ashamed more than me. </p><p></p><p>And we should to reconsider the romantic image of the pirates from the fiction. They weren't only criminals, they did horrible things with the female prisoners, and most of attacks weren't against the Spanish ships, because these traveled together in convoys to be safer, but against villages in the coast to catch slaves. If today "Gone with the Wind" needs a previous disclaimer, maybe in a future all productions about pirates will need something like this. </p><p></p><p>* Today the "barbarians" from the fantasy fiction aren't copies of ancient cultures but more like a remix of neopaganism and tribal-punk. </p><p></p><p>* The trope of the noble savage is not only false, but also dangerous. Those people always were fighting each other for the zones for crops or hunt, and today some intertribal wars continue. And they have to learn to respect the women. </p><p></p><p>* Any solution? To avoid accusations about racist allegories I suggest to use creatures from the same folklore in the opposite sides. For example if in the story A the bad guys are the onis, then other creature from the Japanese folklore will fight against the onis. If the monsters of the week in the story B are the jian-shi (Chinese vampires) then a Chinese creature will help against the jian-shi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LuisCarlos17f, post: 8489390, member: 6802378"] Do you ask about the people of Tenochtitlan? Then I can answer about how lots of indigineous Americans helped Hernan Cortez against Aztec empire, for example the Tlaxcaltecs, and with this the end of the human sacrifices. [SIZE=3]I wonder if you can find a native Northamerican from XIX centure who would rather to live in a English-speaker Indian reversvation than in a mission funded by Catholic Spanish-speakers missionaries? [/SIZE] Don't you understand? For me this is like a walking-dead zombi reporting every full moon the werewolves bite people and eat kitties. I am not who should be ashamed and feeling guilty while we are silent about the actions by others. If you don't allow the Otoman empire to be the antagonist faction but a Catholic bishop or Spanish conquerors can appear like the bad guys of the story, then that is double standar. I am tired. I think others should be ashamed more than me. And we should to reconsider the romantic image of the pirates from the fiction. They weren't only criminals, they did horrible things with the female prisoners, and most of attacks weren't against the Spanish ships, because these traveled together in convoys to be safer, but against villages in the coast to catch slaves. If today "Gone with the Wind" needs a previous disclaimer, maybe in a future all productions about pirates will need something like this. * Today the "barbarians" from the fantasy fiction aren't copies of ancient cultures but more like a remix of neopaganism and tribal-punk. * The trope of the noble savage is not only false, but also dangerous. Those people always were fighting each other for the zones for crops or hunt, and today some intertribal wars continue. And they have to learn to respect the women. * Any solution? To avoid accusations about racist allegories I suggest to use creatures from the same folklore in the opposite sides. For example if in the story A the bad guys are the onis, then other creature from the Japanese folklore will fight against the onis. If the monsters of the week in the story B are the jian-shi (Chinese vampires) then a Chinese creature will help against the jian-shi. [/QUOTE]
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