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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8490751" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Oh and back on this, I dunno as much about the Roman conquest of Germany, but with Britain, there's a very good reason for that and it's not "The Romans were great!".</p><p></p><p>It's "The Romans picked the places which were already the richest and most densely populated and built their cities there". As time went on, they naturally expanded. Had the Romans never invaded, Britain was already in the process of importing a lot of Roman goods and some Roman practices (i.e. the ones it found useful, not just the ones forced on it later). It's impossible to say exactly what would have happened, because it would have been so different, but certainly one cannot say the Romans genuinely improved matters aside from engineering.</p><p></p><p>A good example of how the Romans wiped out a superior practice in Britain is agriculture. Before the Romans took over, Britain was using a much smarter system of crop rotation, and was incredibly productive because of it (literally that form of crop rotation wasn't beaten until the 1940s using fertilizer and so on). The Romans didn't do this form of crop rotation. In fact, they barely did intentional crop rotation at all. They didn't understand it. So they wiped the practice out. Farm yields drastically decreased.</p><p></p><p>They sure knew how to build an aqueduct or a sewer, no-one is denying that, but the idea that their culture was "better" at anything but some forms of engineering and killing people? Not well demonstrated archaeologically. And most of their engineering was, ironically, lost until the renaissance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8490751, member: 18"] Oh and back on this, I dunno as much about the Roman conquest of Germany, but with Britain, there's a very good reason for that and it's not "The Romans were great!". It's "The Romans picked the places which were already the richest and most densely populated and built their cities there". As time went on, they naturally expanded. Had the Romans never invaded, Britain was already in the process of importing a lot of Roman goods and some Roman practices (i.e. the ones it found useful, not just the ones forced on it later). It's impossible to say exactly what would have happened, because it would have been so different, but certainly one cannot say the Romans genuinely improved matters aside from engineering. A good example of how the Romans wiped out a superior practice in Britain is agriculture. Before the Romans took over, Britain was using a much smarter system of crop rotation, and was incredibly productive because of it (literally that form of crop rotation wasn't beaten until the 1940s using fertilizer and so on). The Romans didn't do this form of crop rotation. In fact, they barely did intentional crop rotation at all. They didn't understand it. So they wiped the practice out. Farm yields drastically decreased. They sure knew how to build an aqueduct or a sewer, no-one is denying that, but the idea that their culture was "better" at anything but some forms of engineering and killing people? Not well demonstrated archaeologically. And most of their engineering was, ironically, lost until the renaissance. [/QUOTE]
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