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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8490809" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, that's because of a misunderstanding of what "History is written by the victor" refers to though, isn't it?It refers to cultural destruction. How when some cultures/groups conquer others, they destroy that culture and its ability to talk about itself (numerous examples in the New World relevant to this thread).Your examples in in the first two cases are of internecine warfare, rather than cultural destruction. The losers in civil wars very often keep talking about it (only in the 20th century do things get so nasty that some dictators manage to stop that - c.f. Franco etc.), With the Vietnam war, horrific as it was, was military adventurism of the kind that's always existed and is usually the precursor to cultural destruction. Neither side really "won" in the sense of the adage.</blockquote>