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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8490939" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>This is the problem with echo-chambers, unfortunately. I think most of the people here can agree that this is a terrible representation, right? That's not really in dispute. <em>With most of the people here</em>.</p><p></p><p>But these actions will generate controversy. The World Series was just won by a team that still uses the tomahawk chop and a war chant (ahem) that ... true story ... has been traced to a racist cartoon called <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2021/10/tomahawk-chop-music-pow-wow.html" target="_blank">Pow Wow the Indian Boy</a>.</p><p></p><p>We have massive and heated debates over whether something that should be relatively unobjectionable (like trying to understand the history and consequences of slavery in America) became a lightning rod.* Even basic things like acknowledging the basic humanity (or gender expression) of transgender people is controversial for some.</p><p></p><p>....and while I think it is right and good that WoTC is providing inclusive products today, I find it amazing that there are those who are both blithe to the fact that this is still (unfortunately) controversial <em>despite knowing this for a fact from other places</em>, and also not understanding the distinction between the current products WoTC makes and their legacy products.</p><p></p><p>PS- As it stands, were WoTC to ever release an updated Mystara, I think that they would have a lot of work to do given how much of Mystara has some basis in real-world cultures. This might be the worst, but it's hardly the only example. </p><p></p><p></p><p>*Seriously, it cost the progenitor of the project her chance at tenure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8490939, member: 7023840"] This is the problem with echo-chambers, unfortunately. I think most of the people here can agree that this is a terrible representation, right? That's not really in dispute. [I]With most of the people here[/I]. But these actions will generate controversy. The World Series was just won by a team that still uses the tomahawk chop and a war chant (ahem) that ... true story ... has been traced to a racist cartoon called [URL='https://slate.com/culture/2021/10/tomahawk-chop-music-pow-wow.html']Pow Wow the Indian Boy[/URL]. We have massive and heated debates over whether something that should be relatively unobjectionable (like trying to understand the history and consequences of slavery in America) became a lightning rod.* Even basic things like acknowledging the basic humanity (or gender expression) of transgender people is controversial for some. ....and while I think it is right and good that WoTC is providing inclusive products today, I find it amazing that there are those who are both blithe to the fact that this is still (unfortunately) controversial [I]despite knowing this for a fact from other places[/I], and also not understanding the distinction between the current products WoTC makes and their legacy products. PS- As it stands, were WoTC to ever release an updated Mystara, I think that they would have a lot of work to do given how much of Mystara has some basis in real-world cultures. This might be the worst, but it's hardly the only example. *Seriously, it cost the progenitor of the project her chance at tenure. [/QUOTE]
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