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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8491748" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>That's a good and fair question.</p><p></p><p>To me, the difference is this-</p><p></p><p>The Washington Football Team and the Cleveland Guardians (who formerly had the names you referred to) were continuing to use these names as part of their current identity, and this was inextricably tied into their <em>current marketing, branding, and all efforts</em>. It was a very public and ongoing ... well, slur.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, things that were created in the past and are of their time ("art" - using the term loosely) are not the same. Whether it's a painting, or a piece of music, or a TV program, or a book, or even a gaming supplement (or even an old commercial), these are all artifacts of their time. There is a whole 'nother issue about capitaliss, and long tails, and availability to people that isn't worth going into, but suffice to say that (to use an easy example), the issues in a book like Huck Finn are integral to that book to that book and time. The issues in a John Hughes movie (just pick one... say, Long Duk Dong) are inherent to that movie and that time. And so on. </p><p></p><p>In order to learn about those issues, many of which continue to this day, we don't alter or change the past. Instead, we learn from it and improve the present. All things from the past will have issues; the key is to learn from that to inform the present.</p><p></p><p>But yes, if Hasbro ever decided to just make Mystara an official setting again and kept everything from GAZ10, that would be a massive problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8491748, member: 7023840"] That's a good and fair question. To me, the difference is this- The Washington Football Team and the Cleveland Guardians (who formerly had the names you referred to) were continuing to use these names as part of their current identity, and this was inextricably tied into their [I]current marketing, branding, and all efforts[/I]. It was a very public and ongoing ... well, slur. On the other hand, things that were created in the past and are of their time ("art" - using the term loosely) are not the same. Whether it's a painting, or a piece of music, or a TV program, or a book, or even a gaming supplement (or even an old commercial), these are all artifacts of their time. There is a whole 'nother issue about capitaliss, and long tails, and availability to people that isn't worth going into, but suffice to say that (to use an easy example), the issues in a book like Huck Finn are integral to that book to that book and time. The issues in a John Hughes movie (just pick one... say, Long Duk Dong) are inherent to that movie and that time. And so on. In order to learn about those issues, many of which continue to this day, we don't alter or change the past. Instead, we learn from it and improve the present. All things from the past will have issues; the key is to learn from that to inform the present. But yes, if Hasbro ever decided to just make Mystara an official setting again and kept everything from GAZ10, that would be a massive problem. [/QUOTE]
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