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<blockquote data-quote="Krachek" data-source="post: 8492109" data-attributes="member: 6811643"><p>Since Mystara have been announce by Wotc, some are wondering if we can see the raise from dead of the Orcs of Thar for 5ed. I got my own copy now, so we can take a look at that.</p><p></p><p>It’s a big document. 142 pages pdf.</p><p></p><p>The illustrations. Complete rework there. Racist, bad, bad and racist. The front cover can be kept but I would ask to remove the feathers and review the drawing by an expert to avoid any misinterpretation.</p><p></p><p>The text. The main offenses came from 2 sections. The 3 pages that describe the Tribes of Thar. It’s there that we find the Red orc, The yellow Orc and others offensive and racist references. The other section is 3 pages for naming characters that use reference to Native American and other cultures. Those two section need a complete rework.</p><p>The offensive names and naming construction used in those sections are also spread all around the document naming the tribes and characters. That would require a cleanup but can leave some unwanted names.</p><p></p><p>In this thread we have been aware of a doubtful use of the gri-gri term.</p><p>The document also use the terms Shaman and Wicca that can be replace by Cleric and Sorcerer or more neutral terms.</p><p>We also been aware of the usage of the name of an actual sacred territory.</p><p>There is one usage of “A good orc is a dead orc“ that need to be remove.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise there are the crude and gross manners of orcs, goblins and others but that seem acceptable for DnD. The rest seem Orc things of the same level. I didn’t scan the entire document for hidden reference. And finally there are all the crunch to be adapted for 5ed, but it’s not the subject here.</p><p></p><p>Even if most of the document is reusable and the edition work feasible, I estimate to 0% the chance that Orcs of Thar been adapted to 5ed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Krachek, post: 8492109, member: 6811643"] Since Mystara have been announce by Wotc, some are wondering if we can see the raise from dead of the Orcs of Thar for 5ed. I got my own copy now, so we can take a look at that. It’s a big document. 142 pages pdf. The illustrations. Complete rework there. Racist, bad, bad and racist. The front cover can be kept but I would ask to remove the feathers and review the drawing by an expert to avoid any misinterpretation. The text. The main offenses came from 2 sections. The 3 pages that describe the Tribes of Thar. It’s there that we find the Red orc, The yellow Orc and others offensive and racist references. The other section is 3 pages for naming characters that use reference to Native American and other cultures. Those two section need a complete rework. The offensive names and naming construction used in those sections are also spread all around the document naming the tribes and characters. That would require a cleanup but can leave some unwanted names. In this thread we have been aware of a doubtful use of the gri-gri term. The document also use the terms Shaman and Wicca that can be replace by Cleric and Sorcerer or more neutral terms. We also been aware of the usage of the name of an actual sacred territory. There is one usage of “A good orc is a dead orc“ that need to be remove. Otherwise there are the crude and gross manners of orcs, goblins and others but that seem acceptable for DnD. The rest seem Orc things of the same level. I didn’t scan the entire document for hidden reference. And finally there are all the crunch to be adapted for 5ed, but it’s not the subject here. Even if most of the document is reusable and the edition work feasible, I estimate to 0% the chance that Orcs of Thar been adapted to 5ed. [/QUOTE]
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