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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8492977" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah that was pretty funny, I have to admit.</p><p></p><p>I just don't think it's complicated though, maybe it's my age, or my background or whatever, but I saw that coming a mile off, and it was also easy to dismiss, because they were including Damon in their cheesy popcorn movie for the exact same reason some cheesy popcorn Hollywood movies randomly include a major Chinese star in the last few years. They're trying to cross-market.</p><p></p><p>Just because someone is mad on Twitter, doesn't mean they're right.</p><p></p><p>I guess I sort of see your point in kind of a different way, which is, if you doubt your ability to spot when people are being ridiculous, because maybe you've sailed too close to the edge, or really are afraid of doing so, yeah maybe this becomes scarier. Like, if someone tried to tell me Great Wall was whitewashing, yes even Asian person, I could confidently say "That's just like, your opinion, man", because I know enough about what was going on that I have confidence. Whereas I have a bit more sympathy with the kimono people, because even if some people aren't offended, that is being done by Westerners, and it does fit an unfortunate pattern. I don't think I'd have been surprised by that, but I suspect the people who run that art gallery are 20-30 years older than me and/or only really talk to "people like them" (which isn't even really a race thing - it's a social class thing and social circle thing).</p><p></p><p>I guess for me, like, if you make a long-term effort to understand this stuff, you'll get in tune with it, and you'll become able to spot stuff that:</p><p></p><p>A) Is <em>obviously</em> bogus or shenanigans, or silly. As with Great Wall.</p><p></p><p>B) Where you should shut your yap about, and listen, so you can understand. Some of that will be kind of dubious/opinionated, but it's important that you understand and don't just mouth off about it.</p><p></p><p>C) Is definitely and clearly a problem, and that people deserve support on.</p><p></p><p>Once you've started, there's no real long-term time-investment, note, it's just stuff you'll pick up. But okay, I do see how if you've never really started with this stuff, it's going to seem a bit intimidating. I wouldn't use "bewildering", but maybe that's just an unusual word choice. I feel like it's a bit close to saying people are being unfair, or that expectations are impossible, and I don't agree with either. But again I see it might be scary at first. Just follow some people on Twitter. Unfollow them if they seem like maniacs, and follow someone else. You'll work it out. Personally I find POCGamer very reliable. He follows a couple of people who are a bit pretentious but most of what he retweets and likes and so on is pretty good.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I did not say that to you. You may want to recheck who I was quoting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8492977, member: 18"] Yeah that was pretty funny, I have to admit. I just don't think it's complicated though, maybe it's my age, or my background or whatever, but I saw that coming a mile off, and it was also easy to dismiss, because they were including Damon in their cheesy popcorn movie for the exact same reason some cheesy popcorn Hollywood movies randomly include a major Chinese star in the last few years. They're trying to cross-market. Just because someone is mad on Twitter, doesn't mean they're right. I guess I sort of see your point in kind of a different way, which is, if you doubt your ability to spot when people are being ridiculous, because maybe you've sailed too close to the edge, or really are afraid of doing so, yeah maybe this becomes scarier. Like, if someone tried to tell me Great Wall was whitewashing, yes even Asian person, I could confidently say "That's just like, your opinion, man", because I know enough about what was going on that I have confidence. Whereas I have a bit more sympathy with the kimono people, because even if some people aren't offended, that is being done by Westerners, and it does fit an unfortunate pattern. I don't think I'd have been surprised by that, but I suspect the people who run that art gallery are 20-30 years older than me and/or only really talk to "people like them" (which isn't even really a race thing - it's a social class thing and social circle thing). I guess for me, like, if you make a long-term effort to understand this stuff, you'll get in tune with it, and you'll become able to spot stuff that: A) Is [I]obviously[/I] bogus or shenanigans, or silly. As with Great Wall. B) Where you should shut your yap about, and listen, so you can understand. Some of that will be kind of dubious/opinionated, but it's important that you understand and don't just mouth off about it. C) Is definitely and clearly a problem, and that people deserve support on. Once you've started, there's no real long-term time-investment, note, it's just stuff you'll pick up. But okay, I do see how if you've never really started with this stuff, it's going to seem a bit intimidating. I wouldn't use "bewildering", but maybe that's just an unusual word choice. I feel like it's a bit close to saying people are being unfair, or that expectations are impossible, and I don't agree with either. But again I see it might be scary at first. Just follow some people on Twitter. Unfollow them if they seem like maniacs, and follow someone else. You'll work it out. Personally I find POCGamer very reliable. He follows a couple of people who are a bit pretentious but most of what he retweets and likes and so on is pretty good. I did not say that to you. You may want to recheck who I was quoting. [/QUOTE]
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