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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8493314" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>I would submit that it was not obvious to the employees curators of the Boston Fine Arts Museum. While it's true that art museums are more likely to court controversy than many other types of museums, <em>that </em>was not the type of controversy they wanted any part of. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't say working class people didn't care. I said that the protestors were likely middle class college educated individuals themselves. i.e. The same class of people who are employed at the museum. When I hear someone talking about Orientalism and cultural appropriation they're usually someone with the privilege to have attended university and most likely have a middle class background. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And why do Japanese Americans trump the Japanese in terms of what's okay? Monet's painting wasn't inspired from Japanese-American culture it was inspired by Japanese culture. Like I said, I'm Americentric so I get it. Asian Americans are Americans so I suppose they carry more weight. But does that sound right to you? Do Asian Americans own how the rest of us exchange culture with Japan? </p><p></p><p></p><p>This I agree with. Unfortunately, for the last few years at least, I've rarely heard cultural appropriation used in anything other than a negative context. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we can simultaneously acknowledge the flaws in OA while recognizing what a great book it was. The book has problems and that's quite clear. However, it has an important place in the history of AD&D and I think it's legacy is more positive than negative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8493314, member: 4534"] I would submit that it was not obvious to the employees curators of the Boston Fine Arts Museum. While it's true that art museums are more likely to court controversy than many other types of museums, [I]that [/I]was not the type of controversy they wanted any part of. I didn't say working class people didn't care. I said that the protestors were likely middle class college educated individuals themselves. i.e. The same class of people who are employed at the museum. When I hear someone talking about Orientalism and cultural appropriation they're usually someone with the privilege to have attended university and most likely have a middle class background. And why do Japanese Americans trump the Japanese in terms of what's okay? Monet's painting wasn't inspired from Japanese-American culture it was inspired by Japanese culture. Like I said, I'm Americentric so I get it. Asian Americans are Americans so I suppose they carry more weight. But does that sound right to you? Do Asian Americans own how the rest of us exchange culture with Japan? This I agree with. Unfortunately, for the last few years at least, I've rarely heard cultural appropriation used in anything other than a negative context. I think we can simultaneously acknowledge the flaws in OA while recognizing what a great book it was. The book has problems and that's quite clear. However, it has an important place in the history of AD&D and I think it's legacy is more positive than negative. [/QUOTE]
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