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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8497755" data-attributes="member: 82106">I don't recall ever arguing that it was your experience. I'm only suggesting that other people don't necessarily agree with Jon, apparently. I can tell you something about how 1000's of people whom I played with GENERALLY played. I didn't go and seek out any one kind of people to play with, its just a sample of what was on offer in several places in the timeframe we've discussed. I don't think there's going to be any research which can contradict that, its purely what I experienced! I mean, if you literally are saying you cannot believe me and that my experience cannot be true, take a hike! It was the way things were in the places that I know about with whatever numerous random groups of players I ran into at those times. I really suspect that what we have here is a situation where there were several VERY different and not well-connected 'worlds' of D&D. That was much more possible then than it is now. We just did our little local thing in each group, and all we got was Dragon articles, rumors, and later maybe some time at a con now and then. I'm NOT ARGUING that no other kinds of play existed. I do however think that they may have been less prevalent than you imagine, and that it is quite possible that when you survey they people you know, who play like you played, you get one view of things, but it may be less complete than you imagine. And yes, that applies to everyone, you, me, Jon, and other posters here too. I'd have to go read Jon's book(s) to get a better idea of what exactly he thinks the lay of the land was there anyway, I don't automatically accept or reject 2nd hand accounts. I highly suspect the view that is there is more nuanced.</blockquote>

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