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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8497766" data-attributes="member: 7023887">Wow. What the hell happened to this thread? Edition wars, the old "offense is voluntary" argument (which is practically a dogwhistle version of calling someone a snowflake now), and off-topic tangents left and right.I've seen a few people (I don't want to name names) say stuff along the lines of "I'm not aware of the context of the examples people have pointed out in the GAZ 10", or "It's not my place to judge if that's racist/bigoted", and stuff along those lines.Yes, it is your place to judge. This Gazetteer is a part of our hobby. As members of the same hobby, it is absolutely our place to judge past works of the game, point out its problems, and apologize for this kind of content. The GAZ10's imagery was (and still is) extremely racist. Presenting Orcs in that manner was absolutely not okay, and completely puts an end to the tired-old argument of "Orcs have never been stand-ins for groups of real world peoples!" that so many "anti-woke" people love to claim. This Gazetteer proves that they were, and it was done so in a racist manner towards East Asians, Native Americans, and African Americans. To say "I don't know the context" or "it isn't my place to say whether or not that was wrong" is a cop-out and dismissing the evidence out of hand.If you are saying "It's not my place to judge that product" or "I'm not aware of the context [while not trying to research/discover more of the context]", you're doing a cop-out and giving a free-pass to other content like this. As a member of the same community and hobby as the one that this product was made for (especially if you played the game back around the time this was released), it is absolutely your place to judge it.It is our place to judge it. It's a part of our hobby. This product was racist. To say otherwise is either incredibly (and unbelievably) ignorant, but potentially excusing/being an apologist for this kind of racist content. If you can say "it's not my place to judge that kind of content" while talking crap about/criticizing a playstyle, edition of the game, or other D&D product that you don't like, that's extremely telling and hypocritical.(btw, I've not just seen this kind of behavior in this thread, but also in similar discussions whether or not certain content in a variety of different contexts is racist. It's a frustratingly common and effective means to cop-out of any responsibility of using your moral judgement and empathy.)</blockquote>

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