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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8497821"><p>My initial reaction to the images is pretty negative, but I do really need to read something in full, think about it, and decide for myself. I just can't outsource my opinions to other people online and let them make that call for me. </p><p></p><p>On labels, I just don't know that putting a label on something really does much, and I don't know that this particular product exerts that much power on anything. Personally this is the first I've heard of it. And it doesn't interest me. But I don't need WOTC telling me what to think of their old products. I understand why they are putting these labels up in the current climate. I just don't think they are really helpful to anyone, and I think we are losing the ability to judge things for ourselves. And I think we do need to decide for ourselves what the content of a particular product means. A blanket "these old products are racist" statement is very reductive, misses a lot of nuance and I just don't see what it tells people. I mean when you go back and read old things, those things often have content a modern person would object. That has always been the case. I've never felt the need to for a label to warn me that there might be bad things in a book written in 20s for example. And I also think people need to be able to have different responses. Not everyone is going to agree about what this content means, or what should be done about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 8497821"] My initial reaction to the images is pretty negative, but I do really need to read something in full, think about it, and decide for myself. I just can't outsource my opinions to other people online and let them make that call for me. On labels, I just don't know that putting a label on something really does much, and I don't know that this particular product exerts that much power on anything. Personally this is the first I've heard of it. And it doesn't interest me. But I don't need WOTC telling me what to think of their old products. I understand why they are putting these labels up in the current climate. I just don't think they are really helpful to anyone, and I think we are losing the ability to judge things for ourselves. And I think we do need to decide for ourselves what the content of a particular product means. A blanket "these old products are racist" statement is very reductive, misses a lot of nuance and I just don't see what it tells people. I mean when you go back and read old things, those things often have content a modern person would object. That has always been the case. I've never felt the need to for a label to warn me that there might be bad things in a book written in 20s for example. And I also think people need to be able to have different responses. Not everyone is going to agree about what this content means, or what should be done about it. [/QUOTE]
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