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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8497828"><p>I just need to see something in full for myself before stating it is bad. Maybe that is a product of living through the satanic panic. But even if something looks bad on first glance, I wouldn't condemn it until I really understand what it is about, and like I said before, until I have had time to think about it. I can say my initial response to those images is negative. But that is all I have is an initial response. And yes people are going into detail, but people are also advocating for a position. It is like agreeing with a movie review because the review gives an in depth description of the film. That description is in service to the conclusion of the review. I think at the end of the day though, it should be okay for people say "I don't know enough about this to say what I would conclude" or "I need more time to examine this to form a conclusion". I don't really understand why it is vital we all fall in line so quickly with one another. There are some works of art for example, I spent years thinking about in terms of whether I thought they were okay or not. Sometimes it takes me a long time to decide what I think about the message that was trying to be conveyed. When I see something like this, if I go back and read it (which again in this case, probably not going to do), I would be looking for things like what does the text say, what is tone, what do the rest of the images look like (i.e. are these outliers), what do I think the author was trying to convey (i.e. were they being malicious or was it an attempt at humor), where does this fit with other media from that time, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 8497828"] I just need to see something in full for myself before stating it is bad. Maybe that is a product of living through the satanic panic. But even if something looks bad on first glance, I wouldn't condemn it until I really understand what it is about, and like I said before, until I have had time to think about it. I can say my initial response to those images is negative. But that is all I have is an initial response. And yes people are going into detail, but people are also advocating for a position. It is like agreeing with a movie review because the review gives an in depth description of the film. That description is in service to the conclusion of the review. I think at the end of the day though, it should be okay for people say "I don't know enough about this to say what I would conclude" or "I need more time to examine this to form a conclusion". I don't really understand why it is vital we all fall in line so quickly with one another. There are some works of art for example, I spent years thinking about in terms of whether I thought they were okay or not. Sometimes it takes me a long time to decide what I think about the message that was trying to be conveyed. When I see something like this, if I go back and read it (which again in this case, probably not going to do), I would be looking for things like what does the text say, what is tone, what do the rest of the images look like (i.e. are these outliers), what do I think the author was trying to convey (i.e. were they being malicious or was it an attempt at humor), where does this fit with other media from that time, etc. [/QUOTE]
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