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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8498870" data-attributes="member: 6778210">Ehhhh... maybe I'm taking what you are saying wrong, but typically speaking I think "moral panic" is misused, especially when coming from the more conservative side of things.To keep things on-topic, complaints of "moral panic" on D&D are almost always linked to the satanic panic of the 1980's, regardless of the critique. It's less of a real comparison and more a tool to stifle conversation and delegitimize arguments because D&D has been unfairly targeted in the past. It's also why these threads can be so frustrating, because it constantly gets brought up and you have to debunk it every time.I don't think I debated the nature of Volo's Guide, but I know that I used to be more apologetic for 5E back in the day. I don't think I told anyone to shut up, but I definitely made excuses for 5E's shortcomings.Lathander knows how many times I've told people that it's okay to like problematic things as long as you recognize them as problematic and push for improvement. Too many people take a critique of the system as an attack on themselves because they don't see the critique and thus feel like they themselves are being called out. It's immensely frustrating and generally seems to be unavoidable in these sorts of discussions.</blockquote>