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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8499838" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>Now all art of course is a product of its time, and should be understood as such. What were once intended to be anti-racist works in the past may still come across as racist by modern standards. Granted, some things just are terrible even in the context. It is a well known fact that Lovecraft was very racist even for his era, and what's going on in Orcs of Thar really cannot be excused by mere ignorance like perhaps Oriental Adventures could be.</p><p></p><p>In any case, ultimately that works of the past, especially by long dead creators are problematic is not a big deal in itself. It is completely expected. And people do nothing wrong by merely enjoying such works; though it would be nice if they recognised the problematic elements. However, properly analysing the problematic aspects becomes explicitly important if you adapt or take influence from an old work. Then you should pay attention to not just blindly copy the products of attitudes of the past era. I've been thinking this somewhat due my current setting, which is a primal pulp adventure setting inspired (among other things) by authors such as Howard and Burroughs, works of which contain some rather unfortunate stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8499838, member: 7025508"] Now all art of course is a product of its time, and should be understood as such. What were once intended to be anti-racist works in the past may still come across as racist by modern standards. Granted, some things just are terrible even in the context. It is a well known fact that Lovecraft was very racist even for his era, and what's going on in Orcs of Thar really cannot be excused by mere ignorance like perhaps Oriental Adventures could be. In any case, ultimately that works of the past, especially by long dead creators are problematic is not a big deal in itself. It is completely expected. And people do nothing wrong by merely enjoying such works; though it would be nice if they recognised the problematic elements. However, properly analysing the problematic aspects becomes explicitly important if you adapt or take influence from an old work. Then you should pay attention to not just blindly copy the products of attitudes of the past era. I've been thinking this somewhat due my current setting, which is a primal pulp adventure setting inspired (among other things) by authors such as Howard and Burroughs, works of which contain some rather unfortunate stuff. [/QUOTE]
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