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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8499979" data-attributes="member: 6778210">I mean, no? Like, I lived back then. I didn't have to worry about my parents (or until recently, my grandparents) falling sick and dying on a respirator like I do now. Certain things were worse, but at the same time certain things were definitely better for a straight white guy like me. My parents lived through the Detroit Riots of 1967, my mom worked in Detroit through the 80's until the 10's in some seriously bad neighborhoods and she's continually told me that she's never had a more terrifying time in her life than the present. For her, she's seeing a lot of stuff that most white people didn't have to come to terms with until the news really had to start covering it. As I pointed out before, police brutality and reform is an excellent example of this.And that's just another strike against this whole thing: the people who arguably had it worse are the people being mocked, not the people doing the mocking. Just look at how many people want to return to an idealistic view of the 50's. This whole thing just makes no sense from a perspective of "people had more to worry about" when, arguably, the people who were writing and consuming these things were in a better position back then compared to where they are today.That doesn't really mean anything towards what we are talking about. Your whole view of Reagan that you put forth earlier in the thread makes no sense to me as an American.This isn't coherent. Those got made because, at the time, the people who were being made fun of weren't able to push back, and thus you could openly make joke about them. It's not that people didn't know that they were rude, but rather because they were rude they took enjoyment with them. You could punch down more easily because you didn't have to be exposed to the humanity of who you were punching. You brought up the AIDS crisis and that is, again, a great example: people didn't care or could openly mock that stuff and get away with it... until it started to come back home to the people in the majority.In the end, people always knew this stuff was wrong. When I was a kid in the '90's it was easy to call someone a "f*g" because I didn't know any openly gay people at the time. As I grew up and began to interact with gay people, I realized that I used that insult because I could be cruel without consequence, that I could be mean and no one would do anything about it. It's not that I suddenly realized it was wrong, but I always knew it was wrong, but I did it because I could. In all honesty, I think a lot of people feel the same way and it's why they don't like having these sorts of conversations, but that's a whole other discussion.</blockquote>

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