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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8500088" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I don't think I agree with [USER=6716779]@Zardnaar[/USER]. But I can understand where he (? I believe this is the right pronoun) is coming from.</p><p></p><p>I am in Australia. I have friends who moved here from New Zealand. One reason that some give is that they found NZ too insular. On the other hand, a common phrase among more left-liberal middle class Australians who want to express despair about the political conditions here is to say "I will escape to New Zealand." At the same time that NZ had one of the most Thatcherite governments in the predominantly English-speaking world, it was also banning US warships, the victim of French government terrorism against Greenpeace, and rediscovering and operationalising the Treaty of Waitangi.</p><p></p><p>In more recent years, NZ has taken many refugees who have been held in camps on Nauru or in PNG by the Australian government. And the NZ PM's response to a white supremacist mass shooting in Christchurch by an Australian generated widespread praise and respect in Australia, especially among more left-liberal Australians.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I have seen Maori activists speak - in Australia - in very hostile terms about the "anti-terrorism" raids that took place in NZ in 2007: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_Zealand_police_raids" target="_blank">2007 New Zealand police raids - Wikipedia</a></p><p></p><p>It seems likely that no country or society is perfect. And many basic social structures are common across many places. But countries and societies are also different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8500088, member: 42582"] I don't think I agree with [USER=6716779]@Zardnaar[/USER]. But I can understand where he (? I believe this is the right pronoun) is coming from. I am in Australia. I have friends who moved here from New Zealand. One reason that some give is that they found NZ too insular. On the other hand, a common phrase among more left-liberal middle class Australians who want to express despair about the political conditions here is to say "I will escape to New Zealand." At the same time that NZ had one of the most Thatcherite governments in the predominantly English-speaking world, it was also banning US warships, the victim of French government terrorism against Greenpeace, and rediscovering and operationalising the Treaty of Waitangi. In more recent years, NZ has taken many refugees who have been held in camps on Nauru or in PNG by the Australian government. And the NZ PM's response to a white supremacist mass shooting in Christchurch by an Australian generated widespread praise and respect in Australia, especially among more left-liberal Australians. On the other hand, I have seen Maori activists speak - in Australia - in very hostile terms about the "anti-terrorism" raids that took place in NZ in 2007: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_Zealand_police_raids"]2007 New Zealand police raids - Wikipedia[/URL] It seems likely that no country or society is perfect. And many basic social structures are common across many places. But countries and societies are also different. [/QUOTE]
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