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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8501754" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Relating Lovecraft back to D&D . . . D&D has quite a few "Lovecraftian" monsters, but as far as I can tell, none of them are stolen straight from his works. Mind Flayers, Beholders, Aboleths, Star/Core Spawn, Locathah/Kuo-Toa, Gibbering Mouthers, the Sibriex and other Obyriths, and so on are all based off his stories, but none of them are straight up stolen from it (at least not in D&D 5e, unless you count the mention of Cthulhu in the GOOlock description text). </p><p></p><p>D&D's "Lovecraftian" monsters draw heavily from the vague themes of Lovecraft's Cosmic Horror, but don't outright steal the context of those stories. Locathah/Kuo-Toa aren't tied to the whole "inter-race breeding" theme of the Deep Ones of Innsmouth, for example. D&D has already left behind most of the baggage of HP Lovecraft's works. Mind Flayers aren't stand-ins for any real world marginalized peoples (they could be seen as stand-ins for imperialists/white supremacists, however). The same applies to Aboleths, Beholders, Star Spawn, Obyriths, and so on. </p><p></p><p>D&D has baggage, but I don't think that the Lovecraft-inspired monsters are a part of it. Lovecraft's name being in the credits for D&D's rulebooks? Sure. That can be dropped. The monsters? No. At least, not the iconic ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8501754, member: 7023887"] Relating Lovecraft back to D&D . . . D&D has quite a few "Lovecraftian" monsters, but as far as I can tell, none of them are stolen straight from his works. Mind Flayers, Beholders, Aboleths, Star/Core Spawn, Locathah/Kuo-Toa, Gibbering Mouthers, the Sibriex and other Obyriths, and so on are all based off his stories, but none of them are straight up stolen from it (at least not in D&D 5e, unless you count the mention of Cthulhu in the GOOlock description text). D&D's "Lovecraftian" monsters draw heavily from the vague themes of Lovecraft's Cosmic Horror, but don't outright steal the context of those stories. Locathah/Kuo-Toa aren't tied to the whole "inter-race breeding" theme of the Deep Ones of Innsmouth, for example. D&D has already left behind most of the baggage of HP Lovecraft's works. Mind Flayers aren't stand-ins for any real world marginalized peoples (they could be seen as stand-ins for imperialists/white supremacists, however). The same applies to Aboleths, Beholders, Star Spawn, Obyriths, and so on. D&D has baggage, but I don't think that the Lovecraft-inspired monsters are a part of it. Lovecraft's name being in the credits for D&D's rulebooks? Sure. That can be dropped. The monsters? No. At least, not the iconic ones. [/QUOTE]
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