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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8502402" data-attributes="member: 59082">OK, thanks for clarifying. And I actually agree.I think the reason there is no clear better solution is that we're talking about stuff that has to be worked out of our system over the long-haul. EDIT: a bit more. I mean, we're talking about centuries, if not millennia, of enculturation. I would also suggest that human culture is a work in progress, and there's no singular right way to do it. I'm always leery of people who say "This is the right way, and if don't agree, you're bad!"We, collectively and individually, are in a process - we're trying to figure things out. While we'd all like to get to wherever we imagine we should be, whatever our own view of a more beautiful and kind society is, as quickly as possible, it takes time. And sometimes pushing too hard, sets us back even further, so I think the key question is, "are we, overall, moving forward?" And by "forward," I mean towards a kinder, more inclusive way of being, but also one that honors the freedom and sovereignty of the individual. A tricky business!And I'd suggest that even when we get "there," we'll discover new problems!</blockquote>