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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 8502793" data-attributes="member: 57112">I did hyperbolize and strawman here, and for that I sincerely apologize. The invocation (and, frankly, misapplication) of the poem tweaked a nerve. It still does, but it's still no excuse.I will say, however, that comparing &quot;first they came for the communists&quot; with &quot;first they delisted this heinously racist jokey orc book&quot; is also patently absurd. And hyperbolic.I'm not sure that many experts of their fields take the opinions of laypersons into consideration, nor should they. Regardless of however you feel about the &quot;ideological orientation&quot; (scare quotes intentional, in this case), it is a field, it does have experts, and they have many things that they agree upon which forms the foundation of their discipline. The question &quot;who is making these decisions?&quot; is easily answerable, as is the question of what standards they would apply; the foundations are built into the curriculum.You may disagree with those standards, that curriculum, and the entire field in general, but it does not change the fact that your questions have fairly easy answers. Nor does it give your opinion more (or even anything close to equal) weight to the experts within the field</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 8502793, member: 57112"] I did hyperbolize and strawman here, and for that I sincerely apologize. The invocation (and, frankly, misapplication) of the poem tweaked a nerve. It still does, but it's still no excuse. I will say, however, that comparing "first they came for the communists" with "first they delisted this heinously racist jokey orc book" is also patently absurd. And hyperbolic. I'm not sure that many experts of their fields take the opinions of laypersons into consideration, nor should they. Regardless of however you feel about the "ideological orientation" (scare quotes intentional, in this case), it is a field, it does have experts, and they have many things that they agree upon which forms the foundation of their discipline. The question "who is making these decisions?" is easily answerable, as is the question of what standards they would apply; the foundations are built into the curriculum. You may [I]disagree [/I]with those standards, that curriculum, and the entire field in general, but it does not change the fact that your questions have fairly easy answers. Nor does it give your opinion more (or even anything close to equal) weight to the experts within the field [/QUOTE]

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