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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8502856" data-attributes="member: 59082">Again, please be specific. What did I say was mixed? I've lost track of what you're asking me to be more specific about.That is reasonable on face value. But I honestly question the usefulness of combing through history and looking for things to assign the "problematic" label to, and even re-litigate it. I see nothing wrong with recognizing and discussion problematic elements, and agreeing--as individuals--to proceed forward, hopefully with more awareness.As I've said, I'm not opposed to some kind of disclaimer, but within reason. And, of course, it really depends upon what the disclaimer says and how its applied.I'm not sure how an apology is "action." I think doing better is more important. And that's kind of why I'm saying I wouldn't push it, because a forced apology isn't a real apology, which is why I don't like the OP's suggestion. Not to mention that sometimes, apologies are used as a way to get out of actually doing things differently.I would also add, understanding the problematic nature of a product and agreeing on how problematic it is or what should be done about it, are separate things. I'm not saying that you are saying otherwise, but so often this kind of emphasis on "understanding" implies that if you don't show signs that satisfy me that you understand, then you don't understand. That's kind of my point.I'm not seeing a lot of that in this thread, to be honest. What are you specifically talking about? Twitter? Other forums? Real life?EDIT: I accidentally deleted part of one response, so added something back in.</blockquote>

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