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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8502923" data-attributes="member: 7023840">1. But ... you are advocating piracy. If you cannot obtain a copy legally, then you are obtaining it ... there is a word for this, and it means "not legally."2. Not everything is available illegally. Some people have archives, sometimes they are available, and sometimes they aren't. The best way to ensure something remains available is to allow the rights-holder to continue to make it available.3. These are not exactly high-profit products. Again, we always think of it as "pure profit," but they still have to pay for stuff. When it comes to legacy (long-tail) products, it makes more sense to think of them as low margin.4. Finally, this just circles back to the original question which is being ducked. Okay, GAZ10 is really really bad. And OA. And Ravenloft. And stuff with the Drop (remember Community). And don't forget the misogyny and sexism, so probably can't have the 1e DMG. The various monster books, and the Monster Manual (1e). Oh no... did you know that they statted up the actual gods of people's religions" There goes the OD&D supplement, and Deities & Demigods  (Legends & Lore). And so on.Again, I just simply disagree with you completely on this. Lots of things are products of their time- you are welcome to agitate for banning, removal, or de-profting (or some other variation of that), and I will oppose you, just as I opposed the people in the 80s, 90s, and 00s who tried to pressure private companies into removing positive depictions of gay (and later trans/queer) people.It's a principle- and to me, this is as wrong now, as it was then.Yes, you are right. Disclaimers ARE the easiest part.That's why they did it. That is exactly what I was saying. They can put up blanket disclaimers with ease. But it's like anything else- they do not exist to serve you. Hasbro isn't in the business of having shareholder meetings and saying, "So, out of the goodness of our heat, we are entering into a giant controversy and losing money in order to educate people, even though this is just for our old products that most of our current customers DON'T CARE ABOUT since it has nothing to do with 5e. You're welcome!"I agree that what the OP did was great. Wonderful analysis. Spot on.Now, the OP should continue the work. Maybe, with even more examples, the OP can publish it. That's how this normally works. Companies aren't doing academic works on their old products. The only, very very rare exception is a product that is both incredibly problematic, incredibly popular, and incredibly profitable- like the 4 minute disclaimer that now is added to Gone With the Wind, which is a  film studies professor  explaining that while it is uncomfortable, it is important that classic Hollywood films are available to us in their original form for viewing and discussion."This isn't that.We improve with the stuff we are releasing today, as I keep saying.Woah. Look, this is the worst point made. The mistakes we make today aren't the ones from GAZ10. Those are easy to see.No, the ones we would need to learn from and understand are the ones that would be painful to acknowledge, and that we have been making in the last ten years.But that's hard, and not nearly as easy to feel good about.And for me, this is about seeing people who had power using it to make sure that marginalized communities didn't get the information and representation that they needed. And the way that they were fought was because you could point to principles- they didn't always work, but even when the times were darkest, those were the values you could lean on.And I am not going to discard those values simply because I now find it convenient to silence people I don't like. Because I had that happen to me and people I cared about. And for me, it's wrong, even when you think you are doing it for the right reasons.</blockquote>

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