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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8502985" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>I just don't think you need to catch everything, explicate everything. Everyone is on their own journey. And what you think in 20 years will be different from what you think now.</p><p></p><p>Another point for a general approach: You don't lock yourself into something, say an interpretation, that you might eventually change. WotC might feel like they need to say that "inherently evil orcs" is a bad thing now, but perhaps a new perspective emerges that changes that. Or maybe, just maybe, they come to the "big umbrella" approach that I advocate for.</p><p></p><p>Ha. Yes, you're playing into my plan to get lost in endless hypotheticals...</p><p></p><p></p><p>See, I'd suggest we shouldn't even want to stop people from such, and that we don't need to guide anyone away from that. That smacks of the One True Xism that I've been talking about. And if you want to teach people, maybe be a teacher (or are you, already?).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Where I think we've gotten to is better mutual understanding, and clarified a few things, and maybe found some points of meeting, but that doesn't mean either of us are changing our basic positions or moving closer to the other's. But it is nice to find those "touching points," and I think that is key fo mutual understanding and respect. Or as ET says, "Ouch."</p><p></p><p>So rather than trying to "educate people" or get them to where we're at, maybe that's what we should be going for: finding the places where we already meet. I think that also facilitates deeper understanding, and perhaps even some change, on a person's own accord. But that includes us, as well!</p><p></p><p>I think of a basic principle of humanistic psychology, and why it was such a revolution from the old depth and behaviorist approaches: It put emphasis on the client's sense of meaning, how they define themselves and what happiness and mental health is for them. So rather than pointing out what their problems are and what they need to do to get to a pre-determined state of health as defined by the therapist's clinical orientation, it was about helping them find a place of wellness with themselves, through self-understanding and acceptance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8502985, member: 59082"] I just don't think you need to catch everything, explicate everything. Everyone is on their own journey. And what you think in 20 years will be different from what you think now. Another point for a general approach: You don't lock yourself into something, say an interpretation, that you might eventually change. WotC might feel like they need to say that "inherently evil orcs" is a bad thing now, but perhaps a new perspective emerges that changes that. Or maybe, just maybe, they come to the "big umbrella" approach that I advocate for. Ha. Yes, you're playing into my plan to get lost in endless hypotheticals... See, I'd suggest we shouldn't even want to stop people from such, and that we don't need to guide anyone away from that. That smacks of the One True Xism that I've been talking about. And if you want to teach people, maybe be a teacher (or are you, already?). Where I think we've gotten to is better mutual understanding, and clarified a few things, and maybe found some points of meeting, but that doesn't mean either of us are changing our basic positions or moving closer to the other's. But it is nice to find those "touching points," and I think that is key fo mutual understanding and respect. Or as ET says, "Ouch." So rather than trying to "educate people" or get them to where we're at, maybe that's what we should be going for: finding the places where we already meet. I think that also facilitates deeper understanding, and perhaps even some change, on a person's own accord. But that includes us, as well! I think of a basic principle of humanistic psychology, and why it was such a revolution from the old depth and behaviorist approaches: It put emphasis on the client's sense of meaning, how they define themselves and what happiness and mental health is for them. So rather than pointing out what their problems are and what they need to do to get to a pre-determined state of health as defined by the therapist's clinical orientation, it was about helping them find a place of wellness with themselves, through self-understanding and acceptance. [/QUOTE]
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