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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voranzovin" data-source="post: 8506025" data-attributes="member: 7020495">Is this an objective critique, though? Absent empirical data being used to test some kind of falsifiable hypothesis, I don't think it is purely objective. I disagree with [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER], but he's lived as a Jew and experienced Anti-Semitism, so I'm inclined to give his view some credence. Maybe you have, too, but if so there was no indication of it up till now.That doesn't, by the way, mean that non-Jews can't have opinions about Anti-Semitism, or that those opinions are required to line up with any Jews who happen to be present (Jews, obviously, don't necessarily agree with each other). It does mean that dismissing the opinion of a Jewish person on the subject gets my hackles up.I really can't answer the latter question without more information. "Identify as Jewish" is too vague to comment on.It's not that they're a criticism of capitalism alone--its that they're that, plus a bunch of other traits that are reminiscent of anti-Semitic caricatures. They have big ears and hooked noses, they leer, they're cowardly and conniving, and this is contrasted with the straight-backed, brave people of the Federation in a way that is not unlike the comparison made between untrustworthy Jews and honest Aryans in the anti-Semitic works of a particular era. It's all those things together, not any one of them alone.To be clear, I don't think that anyone in the Next Generation crew was trying to create an anti-Semitic caricature. They were just reaching for something to represent capitalists, and some Jewish caricatures happened to be what was floating around in the cultural ether. Nore am I particularly upset by it--as Anti-Semitism goes, it's pretty mild, and they made up for it in DS9. But I do think it's present.Yeah this will vary a great deal between cultures. It's entirely possible that these particular tropes aren't very present in Quebec.</blockquote>

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