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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 8515929" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>Yes, wonderful. It is fortuitous timing, what with this thread, and its 68,000 views. It shows WotC's sensitivity and care. I guess we're all okay with that.</p><p></p><p>After my red card in this thread had expired, I would've liked to have recapped the key points which I and others expressed in this thread. Yet there was a sea of other topics discussed in the meantime. And I was travelling. And I'm starting a new job. So, it may be awhile, or not happen.</p><p></p><p>It was disheartening to see that after I left, somehow almost (but not quite) everyone totally forgot the gist of my proposal, and instead (when there weren't pages and pages of questionable topicality)* argued back and forth about "pull the PDF!" vs. "no censorship! no action!"</p><p></p><p>*(Which I just now contributed to, with my off-topic reply to an off-topic conversation about Nerath 2.0! I figure: if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em.)</p><p></p><p>Literally, the whole point of the solution I offered was to sidestep that dichotomy in a creative, healing, doable way. I never suggested pulling the PDF. (Though I also would not weep if it were pulled.) Yet I'm tired of the totally "binary" dichotomous mentality.</p><p></p><p>The nuanced, objective approach I offered was not just about GAZ10. It was a doable pathway for also creatively but seriously addressing books like Oriental Adventures.</p><p></p><p>Or do people just secretly enjoy arguing about binaries? Can people literally only think of two humanly possible actions: "pull the OA PDF!" vs. "No censorship of OA! It's fine as it is! No action!"</p><p></p><p>I thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I succeeded in my goal of bringing this to awareness, with 68,000 views. Contributors made a number of good points.</p><p></p><p>As the OP, I'd be glad for the thread to be closed at this point. If I wished to recap the key points in the future, and show how they could be applied to OA and other legacy PDFs, I could start a new thread.</p><p></p><p>Peace out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 8515929, member: 6688049"] Yes, wonderful. It is fortuitous timing, what with this thread, and its 68,000 views. It shows WotC's sensitivity and care. I guess we're all okay with that. After my red card in this thread had expired, I would've liked to have recapped the key points which I and others expressed in this thread. Yet there was a sea of other topics discussed in the meantime. And I was travelling. And I'm starting a new job. So, it may be awhile, or not happen. It was disheartening to see that after I left, somehow almost (but not quite) everyone totally forgot the gist of my proposal, and instead (when there weren't pages and pages of questionable topicality)* argued back and forth about "pull the PDF!" vs. "no censorship! no action!" *(Which I just now contributed to, with my off-topic reply to an off-topic conversation about Nerath 2.0! I figure: if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em.) Literally, the whole point of the solution I offered was to sidestep that dichotomy in a creative, healing, doable way. I never suggested pulling the PDF. (Though I also would not weep if it were pulled.) Yet I'm tired of the totally "binary" dichotomous mentality. The nuanced, objective approach I offered was not just about GAZ10. It was a doable pathway for also creatively but seriously addressing books like Oriental Adventures. Or do people just secretly enjoy arguing about binaries? Can people literally only think of two humanly possible actions: "pull the OA PDF!" vs. "No censorship of OA! It's fine as it is! No action!" I thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I succeeded in my goal of bringing this to awareness, with 68,000 views. Contributors made a number of good points. As the OP, I'd be glad for the thread to be closed at this point. If I wished to recap the key points in the future, and show how they could be applied to OA and other legacy PDFs, I could start a new thread. Peace out. [/QUOTE]
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