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<blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 2114103" data-attributes="member: 4682"><p>You know, I have all incarnations of the <em>Savage Coast</em> setting and I have been hard pressed to appreciate what is so good about the <em>Princess Ark</em> version over the AD&D <em>Red Steel/Savage Coast</em> version. I can see the qualitative difference between the AD&D <em>Known World</em> products and the BXCM/RC Gazetteers clear as day. But I don't see a qualitative difference worth the wailing I have heard for a decade with the <em>Red Steel</em> material.</p><p></p><p>For my money, the AD&D2e versions were appreciably better. Frankly, I don't recall anything that appeared in the articles that wasn't covered in the <em>Red Steel</em> boxed set besides the alteration to the Curse and cinnabryl. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have not been sold on why the unaltered original articles were superior beyond "they came before the <em>Red Steel</em> boxed set". Frankly, I don't view the alteration of the Curse and usage of cinnabryl to be a whitewashing. Calling it a "whitewash" implied that the original was superior somehow other that it being the "original" version. I bought <em>Red Steel</em> before I ever owned anything else about <em>Mystara</em> or had read the Princess Arc articles. So this was my first impression of the Curse and cinnabryl. It was nifty stuff. Finding out later that <em>Red Steel</em> was based on material that originally appeared in Dragon Magazine, and that the Curse and cinnabryl as written in the articles were altered at the request of TSR management to remove the "drug" connotations of the original material did nothing to lessen my original impression and appreciation. I know it is a personal opinion, but I prefer the <em>Red Steel</em> versions of the Curse and cinnabryl even after knowing the motivations for the change.</p><p></p><p>That's why I say that <em>Red Steel</em> by itself, divorced of links to Mystara, is a wonderful setting. In fact, I imported the City-States, Savage Coast, Orc's Head Peninsula, and Arm of the Immortals (all as appearing in <em>Red Steel</em> products) into my own homebrew setting just fine. *shrug*</p><p></p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>Eric Anondson</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AdmundfortGeographer, post: 2114103, member: 4682"] You know, I have all incarnations of the [i]Savage Coast[/i] setting and I have been hard pressed to appreciate what is so good about the [i]Princess Ark[/i] version over the AD&D [i]Red Steel/Savage Coast[/i] version. I can see the qualitative difference between the AD&D [i]Known World[/i] products and the BXCM/RC Gazetteers clear as day. But I don't see a qualitative difference worth the wailing I have heard for a decade with the [i]Red Steel[/i] material. For my money, the AD&D2e versions were appreciably better. Frankly, I don't recall anything that appeared in the articles that wasn't covered in the [i]Red Steel[/i] boxed set besides the alteration to the Curse and cinnabryl. I have not been sold on why the unaltered original articles were superior beyond "they came before the [i]Red Steel[/i] boxed set". Frankly, I don't view the alteration of the Curse and usage of cinnabryl to be a whitewashing. Calling it a "whitewash" implied that the original was superior somehow other that it being the "original" version. I bought [i]Red Steel[/i] before I ever owned anything else about [i]Mystara[/i] or had read the Princess Arc articles. So this was my first impression of the Curse and cinnabryl. It was nifty stuff. Finding out later that [i]Red Steel[/i] was based on material that originally appeared in Dragon Magazine, and that the Curse and cinnabryl as written in the articles were altered at the request of TSR management to remove the "drug" connotations of the original material did nothing to lessen my original impression and appreciation. I know it is a personal opinion, but I prefer the [i]Red Steel[/i] versions of the Curse and cinnabryl even after knowing the motivations for the change. That's why I say that [i]Red Steel[/i] by itself, divorced of links to Mystara, is a wonderful setting. In fact, I imported the City-States, Savage Coast, Orc's Head Peninsula, and Arm of the Immortals (all as appearing in [i]Red Steel[/i] products) into my own homebrew setting just fine. *shrug* Regards, Eric Anondson [/QUOTE]
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