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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1198258" data-attributes="member: 2629">We're talking EL 17. A 14th level party versus EL 17 should be hard pushed.And I think you underestimate the power of a marilith. I've seen a well used 3.5 marilith rip apart a 21st level party by itself. Still, a 14th level PC should have 7th level spells. A nice delayed blast fireball should do the trick against 9th level wizards. 14d6 damage (49 average) versus wizards with hit points in the high 20s?Second, we're talking the leader here. A leader of a very evil organization. Even if he has a huge advantage, the leader is the last one to actually get into battle. A cleric with an antimagic aura around him would completely destroy this wizard. A single failed save can still kill him. I'm not going to argue spell power and spell focus with you. I've done the math. Anything beyond 10 + spell level + attribute modifier is going to start to push the envelope of balance. Even spell focus makes spells too powerful to provide balanced play amongst the classes at high levels. If you do the math and study the effectiveness of the classes, you'll agree with me. If you don't, it is pointless to argue.Yes, this ability can be grossly abused if the DM builds the game in that fashion. This is primarily an NPC class. If the DM wants to kill the PCs, he can just send a great red wyrm against the PCs at 10th level. The DM can *always* kill the PCs. In the hands of a PC, this ability should be far weaker. He needs to have cohorts and followers and he needs to keep them close at hand. It is still possible to get very high caster levels and multiple metamagic feats (empowered, maximized and heightened to 9th level), but only under very limited circumstances and only if the DM allows him to be built up in that manner.In other words, yes, this is possible to highly abuse in limited circumstances. Those circumstances are so rare, it wasn't worth their time to change it. The reason why the focus/power issues were addressed is because everybody was using them all the time. They were an abuse that was so overused that they had to be removed.</blockquote>

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