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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1198457" data-attributes="member: 2238">Looking at the description, it seems to me that if a Red Wizard was going for broke and he was 15th level and had 9 apprentices of 9th level, after the 1 hour ceremony, he would have 45 levels to play with.  Assuming he has maxed out his intelligence, he can cast 8th level spells as a 20th level caster.  Right.so he gets his 45 levels to play with.  Lets say he is an enchanter.  So he can only take his caster level to 40th.  That eats up 20 of his 45 spell levels.  So we treat him as a spellcaster of 40th level for today.He then decides to use cast an enchantment-  antipathy, he has scried a powerful group of heroesapproaching his secret stronghold and wants to send them on thier way.  As it stands now he can cover a voume of 40 10ft cubes.  to create an area that he wants to repel them from.  So he can't maximise or empower the spell, but he can heighten it.  So he makes it a 20th level spell.  The heros cant save and so they leave and don't come back for three days.In that time he can power up again.Woe be to them if he is an evoker.  However, if the characters are smart they will find out what his prohibited schools are and make use of attacks that require that kind of magic to stop.  Every red wizard has 3 (for diviners) or 4 prohibited schools.  Figureing out what his first ones were would allow the characters to get at him.  Also chances are that his apprentices follow a similar path.  At least they would be less likely to study a school that is prohibited by thier master.  Also, keep in mind that even if he does not go for broke on one spell, he is most likely to use up a lot of spare levels very quickly if he were say an evoker in a toe to toe fight...  Especially if he has maxed out his caster level.  Also, if he is away from his home, or his apprentices are off on long term errends, his power will be less.  When you really look at it, its not THAT bad. Certainly no one to be trifled with.Also, he could loose initiative.  DMs First rule:  Never underestimate the players.Aaron.</blockquote>

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