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Red Wizard - What the hell was WotC smoking????
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<blockquote data-quote="Toras" data-source="post: 1204959" data-attributes="member: 13626"><p>We don't even know if Szass Tam is even involved in the Drug trade. Assume that he is, the people we have destroyed are doubtfully very high up on the food chain. Of course if it was another zulkir, suddenly the access to epic undead and nether artifacts disappears. Now they have to organize an attack party willing to go have way across the world to attack the enemy. How many epic level subordinates does the average zulkir have on hand, that are willing to step in themselves? I am honestly curious. </p><p> </p><p>Assuming its him, he could ask for Lorath the undead, but honestly he would have to teleport them in at the entrance (due to our wardings) and run the holy ground gauntlet or try to overpower said wardings, which is he do able at his level but that act would set off the alarms, allowing everyone to get prepared. It wouldn't be as easy or trivial a thing as you are contending.</p><p></p><p>According to his write up in the epic level handbook, "he works from the shadows and is perfectly willing to abandon servants and attempts that fail and simply try again later...He's not exerting power yet." You may play it differently but that is what it says. He is undead, he could just wait for us to grow old and die. </p><p></p><p>As to the "evil" wizards that want us around, we might not have Thay interested in us, but a certain master of Undermountain looks upon us with good favor. </p><p></p><p>For the Balance issue, you have to remember the time frame. The enclave of Shade, an incredibly powerful group of "evil" netherese have appeared on the scene. They have incredibly powerful magic and are likely causing great speculations in Thay. Honestly, who would be more of a concern, ancient Netherise with a mythalar or a group.</p><p></p><p>Tell you what. Design what you would consider an appropriate strike force.</p><p>You know that there is 1-2 clerics, 1 samurai, 1 monk, 1 wujen/archmage (hidden), 1 spellfire wielder, and 1 wizard/rogue noble. That is the party. </p><p>There are countless npcs including (Gold, Silver, and other metallic dragons), 1 epic paladin, 1 additional epic cleric, 1 assassin, and the clergy of the two temples. I've already explained the mansion set up, post what your "strike force" would look like or how you would go about it. I like it, I will foward it on to our DM, and see if we run through it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toras, post: 1204959, member: 13626"] We don't even know if Szass Tam is even involved in the Drug trade. Assume that he is, the people we have destroyed are doubtfully very high up on the food chain. Of course if it was another zulkir, suddenly the access to epic undead and nether artifacts disappears. Now they have to organize an attack party willing to go have way across the world to attack the enemy. How many epic level subordinates does the average zulkir have on hand, that are willing to step in themselves? I am honestly curious. Assuming its him, he could ask for Lorath the undead, but honestly he would have to teleport them in at the entrance (due to our wardings) and run the holy ground gauntlet or try to overpower said wardings, which is he do able at his level but that act would set off the alarms, allowing everyone to get prepared. It wouldn't be as easy or trivial a thing as you are contending. According to his write up in the epic level handbook, "he works from the shadows and is perfectly willing to abandon servants and attempts that fail and simply try again later...He's not exerting power yet." You may play it differently but that is what it says. He is undead, he could just wait for us to grow old and die. As to the "evil" wizards that want us around, we might not have Thay interested in us, but a certain master of Undermountain looks upon us with good favor. For the Balance issue, you have to remember the time frame. The enclave of Shade, an incredibly powerful group of "evil" netherese have appeared on the scene. They have incredibly powerful magic and are likely causing great speculations in Thay. Honestly, who would be more of a concern, ancient Netherise with a mythalar or a group. Tell you what. Design what you would consider an appropriate strike force. You know that there is 1-2 clerics, 1 samurai, 1 monk, 1 wujen/archmage (hidden), 1 spellfire wielder, and 1 wizard/rogue noble. That is the party. There are countless npcs including (Gold, Silver, and other metallic dragons), 1 epic paladin, 1 additional epic cleric, 1 assassin, and the clergy of the two temples. I've already explained the mansion set up, post what your "strike force" would look like or how you would go about it. I like it, I will foward it on to our DM, and see if we run through it. [/QUOTE]
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