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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7066307" data-attributes="member: 48965">So do they kill as a last resort or do they kill... in self-defence, defence of others, as punishment and in consensual situations... because that's alot of situations (that seems to be growing as we continue this conversation) to consider as a last resort... According to the fluff the redemption paladin on the other hand will kill if an innocent is in danger or if it's a supernatural evil... seems like alot smaller list, with much less wiggle room, than what you listed aboveAgain not concerned with AD&D  and honestly if you interpret that as no good character can fight dirty... well then that means no rogue who uses backstab , sneak attack could be good... no party that ambushes or surprises enemies could be good...and so on.  It doesn't make sense for the D&D genre... good thing 5e doesn;t make that connection.</blockquote>