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<blockquote data-quote="Atanatotatos" data-source="post: 4375302" data-attributes="member: 46957"><p>Look, I understand where this comes from. If you read the rules for mounting on the dmg, it says that rider and mount share a normal set of actions: one standard, one move, one minor. However, these are the rules for mounted PCs.</p><p>I considered the hobgoblin and the horse two separate monster, each with his own set of actions, that act combined on the same turn: a whole different thing.</p><p>As for the action i count:</p><p>ONE move action to prevent the horse being knocked down. the way I see it, if the horse is not knocked down, why should the rider spend an action to avoid falling? He avoided the threat. He's on saddle. If the horse had fallen, or if an effect had targeted the rider himself, then he would have been knocked off the saddle.</p><p>The horse uses its own actions to move.</p><p>The hobgoblin attacks.</p><p>The hobgoblin drinks a potion. </p><p></p><p>Now HERE I admit a mistake. The PH lists "consuming a potion" as a minor action. Does this include picking the potion? Probably not. So probably the Hobgoblin should have used two minors (retrieving an item is a minor action, not a move). I'm sorry.</p><p>I may be badly mistaken, but it seems to me this is the only obvious mistake. </p><p>Am I writing nonsense?</p><p></p><p>Also, I don't understand why you say that there's "no ride-by attack unless specified in the mount's data". As I said, I used two monsters in the MM as a BaSE, then modified them. As for them sharing their whole sets of action in the same turn, well... the mechanics for mounted combats you cite are made to limit the pcs' power. Monsters don't need that. They just need to give more xp for new abilities. I think one-and-a-half the sum of the two base monsters' xp is more or less appropriate. Think of it as an elite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atanatotatos, post: 4375302, member: 46957"] Look, I understand where this comes from. If you read the rules for mounting on the dmg, it says that rider and mount share a normal set of actions: one standard, one move, one minor. However, these are the rules for mounted PCs. I considered the hobgoblin and the horse two separate monster, each with his own set of actions, that act combined on the same turn: a whole different thing. As for the action i count: ONE move action to prevent the horse being knocked down. the way I see it, if the horse is not knocked down, why should the rider spend an action to avoid falling? He avoided the threat. He's on saddle. If the horse had fallen, or if an effect had targeted the rider himself, then he would have been knocked off the saddle. The horse uses its own actions to move. The hobgoblin attacks. The hobgoblin drinks a potion. Now HERE I admit a mistake. The PH lists "consuming a potion" as a minor action. Does this include picking the potion? Probably not. So probably the Hobgoblin should have used two minors (retrieving an item is a minor action, not a move). I'm sorry. I may be badly mistaken, but it seems to me this is the only obvious mistake. Am I writing nonsense? Also, I don't understand why you say that there's "no ride-by attack unless specified in the mount's data". As I said, I used two monsters in the MM as a BaSE, then modified them. As for them sharing their whole sets of action in the same turn, well... the mechanics for mounted combats you cite are made to limit the pcs' power. Monsters don't need that. They just need to give more xp for new abilities. I think one-and-a-half the sum of the two base monsters' xp is more or less appropriate. Think of it as an elite. [/QUOTE]
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