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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4986636" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, overall my points are based more on analysis than experience with trying it, so I don't think they should be given TOO high a weight either. Once or twice I have run into games where they were trying to do this and were having some odd things happen, but it can be pretty hard to sort out one specific house rule as being the reason for something too. So its not a bad experiment to try and I'm interested in hearing more about how it actually went for people. I'm still not that unimpressed with regular old minions though. I think there are definitely certain characters that can really clean them out, but even with a pretty good control wizard in the party I'm DMing they still regularly manage to get the party's attention. Had a level 7 battle the other day where I had 4 level 7 minions. They didn't have a HUGE impact, but they closed with the party and got hits. One got cleaved, another the STR cleric finally had to bash with healing strike, 2 others fell to the warlock's rod of reaving but it was round 4 before the last one went down, so they got an average of 2-3 swings, probably 10 attacks in all, 5 hits, so 25 damage. I suppose doubling it might have made them scarier, but I probably should have upped it to like 7 per hit anyway at that level.</blockquote>