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<blockquote data-quote="Kodam" data-source="post: 1043635" data-attributes="member: 13043">It must be a +1 armor to have any specific magic qualities. So we're at 50.000 GP at least (+5). And what do we get? +9 armor AC Bonus with a +1 Fullplate. Arcane Armor gives +4 so the armored mage is +5 AC ahead. With lighter Armor its even less so I leave them out. He had to invest 1 Level in Fighter, Paladin or Cleric to get the proficiency (-1 CL!), has a Max Dex, reduced movement and had to invest something into his Str. But he still has the bracers slot available. All in all I can't see, where this is overpowered. The &quot;lost&quot; caster level really hurts. He got +5 to his AC but he had to invest a lot and still has some drawbacks. And his AC against touch attacks will be lousy. If the armored wizard &quot;armored&quot; himself with the +8 Bracers he had spent 14k GPs more and lost 1 Point of AC without all the other ill effects. If I had to play a Wizard, I'd just go for a high Dex (besides Int and Con, of course). This increases not only my AC, but also my reflex save, my bonus to ranged attacks which are my favorite ones as a Wizard and my initiative. This last one could make my AC completely irrelevant since I can possibly end the fight before it even begins....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kodam, post: 1043635, member: 13043"] It must be a +1 armor to have any specific magic qualities. So we're at 50.000 GP at least (+5). And what do we get? +9 armor AC Bonus with a +1 Fullplate. Arcane Armor gives +4 so the armored mage is +5 AC ahead. With lighter Armor its even less so I leave them out. He had to invest 1 Level in Fighter, Paladin or Cleric to get the proficiency (-1 CL!), has a Max Dex, reduced movement and had to invest something into his Str. But he still has the bracers slot available. All in all I can't see, where this is overpowered. The "lost" caster level really hurts. He got +5 to his AC but he had to invest a lot and still has some drawbacks. And [I]his[/I] AC against touch attacks will be lousy. If the armored wizard "armored" himself with the +8 Bracers he had spent 14k GPs more and lost 1 Point of AC without all the other ill effects. If I had to play a Wizard, I'd just go for a high Dex (besides Int and Con, of course). This increases not only my AC, but also my reflex save, my bonus to ranged attacks which are my favorite ones as a Wizard and my initiative. This last one could make my AC completely irrelevant since I can possibly end the fight before it even begins.... [/QUOTE]

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