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<blockquote data-quote="Someone" data-source="post: 3616297" data-attributes="member: 5656">This may be true for caster type characters, but not for combat oriented ones. For them, the reduced hit dice are a big hit because his hit points suck compared to non-ECLed companions, but as they gain levels the Con bonuses combat brutes usually have compensate the diference in hit points, and the only real penalty is delayed access to iterative attacks and feats.As an example, consider a 4th level human fighter and a 1st level half dragon/half human&nbsp; Ftr 1, both ECL 4. Both buy Con 14 and Str 16 before racial adjustments. The human has 40 hit points. The half dragon has 13 hit points. Attack bonuses will be similar thanks to the high str bonus, but the half dragon will do more damage thanks to that Str bonus and having natural attacks that can be used as secondary.Later at ECL 10 the human has Con 18 thanks to level advancement or magic items. His hit points are now 117, and his attack bonus should be around +18 or a bit higher, with two attacks. The half dragon Ftr 7 should have around 100 hit points, also has two attacks plus his natural ones, and his Str bonus is as much as benefit as before.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Someone, post: 3616297, member: 5656"] This may be true for caster type characters, but not for combat oriented ones. For them, the reduced hit dice are a big hit because his hit points suck compared to non-ECLed companions, but as they gain levels the Con bonuses combat brutes usually have compensate the diference in hit points, and the only real penalty is delayed access to iterative attacks and feats. As an example, consider a 4th level human fighter and a 1st level half dragon/half human Ftr 1, both ECL 4. Both buy Con 14 and Str 16 before racial adjustments. The human has 40 hit points. The half dragon has [b]13[/b] hit points. Attack bonuses will be similar thanks to the high str bonus, but the half dragon will do more damage thanks to that Str bonus and having natural attacks that can be used as secondary. Later at ECL 10 the human has Con 18 thanks to level advancement or magic items. His hit points are now 117, and his attack bonus should be around +18 or a bit higher, with two attacks. The half dragon Ftr 7 should have around 100 hit points, also has two attacks plus his natural ones, and his Str bonus is as much as benefit as before. [/QUOTE]

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