Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Reducing Options to Increase Fun
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5261986" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>If this is not contingent on the rules-book (not the GM) mandating the bonuses and penalties, then it is directly contrary to what I took to be your point -- the only thing left after you denied that you meant any of the other things you appeared to be saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is the very state of affairs to which you have vehemently objected!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Try what you wrote immediately after that for a hint:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It sure doesn't look as if you think the "lack of mechanics" is a <em>good</em> thing! You have (repeatedly) expressed the same view in more colorful terms.</p><p></p><p>You have also received the answer, that what he have gained by not having a given table or paragraph or several paragraphs in a book is not needing to look up that table or paragraph or several paragraphs in a book.</p><p></p><p>What do we gain by looking up something in a book when we already have an understanding that is pleasing to us?</p><p></p><p>It simply would not do to have to verify in a dictionary the meaning of all the very words in which the dictionary gives its definitions. It would not do to have to .... look ... up ... each ... word ... in ... each ... sentence in order to carry on the conversation upon which the game depends.</p><p></p><p>No, we depend upon the simple fact of our apparent mutual understanding to get on with the affair in timely and not obnoxiously irritating fashion. When we turn to a codex, it is because that works better for us.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps it has somehow escaped your attention that there are in fact some tens or (in AD&D) hundreds of pages that do contain material meant to be consulted. I strongly suspect that you would find at least a few of those superfluous to your needs.</p><p></p><p>It just happens to be that the books were written (and are employed) by people who don't happen to share your personal preference in a whole lot of things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5261986, member: 80487"] If this is not contingent on the rules-book (not the GM) mandating the bonuses and penalties, then it is directly contrary to what I took to be your point -- the only thing left after you denied that you meant any of the other things you appeared to be saying. This is the very state of affairs to which you have vehemently objected! Try what you wrote immediately after that for a hint: It sure doesn't look as if you think the "lack of mechanics" is a [i]good[/i] thing! You have (repeatedly) expressed the same view in more colorful terms. You have also received the answer, that what he have gained by not having a given table or paragraph or several paragraphs in a book is not needing to look up that table or paragraph or several paragraphs in a book. What do we gain by looking up something in a book when we already have an understanding that is pleasing to us? It simply would not do to have to verify in a dictionary the meaning of all the very words in which the dictionary gives its definitions. It would not do to have to .... look ... up ... each ... word ... in ... each ... sentence in order to carry on the conversation upon which the game depends. No, we depend upon the simple fact of our apparent mutual understanding to get on with the affair in timely and not obnoxiously irritating fashion. When we turn to a codex, it is because that works better for us. Perhaps it has somehow escaped your attention that there are in fact some tens or (in AD&D) hundreds of pages that do contain material meant to be consulted. I strongly suspect that you would find at least a few of those superfluous to your needs. It just happens to be that the books were written (and are employed) by people who don't happen to share your personal preference in a whole lot of things. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Reducing Options to Increase Fun
Top