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<blockquote data-quote="Markn" data-source="post: 4928860" data-attributes="member: 21827">Not that I have seen.&nbsp; I have problems with large massess of melee monsters but for other reasons - the fighter uses come and get it and rain of steel, the cleric pops a zone that adds 2d6 to everyones damage, the wizard pops powers that hit all enemies in the zone and the PCs pop these powers all at once mowing down every group of melee monsters.&nbsp; I've fouind that by 15th level if I don't include ranged monsters in every fight I get wholesale slaughtered.&nbsp; But in regards to your concern, I have found those effects to not be devalued in anyway.But since you raised the point, I have found that creatures that have powers that work only at bloodied or only work when not bloodied seem to be slightly affected.&nbsp; But for me, the simples approach is for the DM to make changes and not the players - the DM can adjust rules without the players ever realizing it whereas players seem to groan with every change they need to make.&nbsp; Plus if you use the CB its such a hassle to make players make the changes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Markn, post: 4928860, member: 21827"] Not that I have seen. I have problems with large massess of melee monsters but for other reasons - the fighter uses come and get it and rain of steel, the cleric pops a zone that adds 2d6 to everyones damage, the wizard pops powers that hit all enemies in the zone and the PCs pop these powers all at once mowing down every group of melee monsters. I've fouind that by 15th level if I don't include ranged monsters in every fight I get wholesale slaughtered. But in regards to your concern, I have found those effects to not be devalued in anyway. But since you raised the point, I have found that creatures that have powers that work only at bloodied or only work when not bloodied seem to be slightly affected. But for me, the simples approach is for the DM to make changes and not the players - the DM can adjust rules without the players ever realizing it whereas players seem to groan with every change they need to make. Plus if you use the CB its such a hassle to make players make the changes. [/QUOTE]

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