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<blockquote data-quote="Alisair Longreach" data-source="post: 4931301" data-attributes="member: 50851">Keterys, my math example was with a not-min-maxed PC and I ignored bonus damage from use of encounter/daily powers and striker damage and multiple targets. I simplified the math to better illustrate my point.&nbsp;Have you ever fought a Dragon three levels above your party? Believe me, after the first hour it gets boring real fast. The +½ level to PC damage speeds up those Elite and Solo fights. Extra damage on multiple target attacks? So what? Let the Controllers feel badass. A Minion blasted for 10 damage or 25 damage is still a dead Minion.&nbsp;I know that removing the limits on magic item use opens it up for many kinds of abuse but if you have adult and mature players you could make a &quot;Gentleman's Agreement&quot; about avoiding the worst cheese.&nbsp;Lugging around dozens of Dwarven Armor and the like for free effects is not OK. One Daily item power use per body slot is OK. Going Nova in a big Boss fight is OK. Changing items during rests is not OK.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alisair Longreach, post: 4931301, member: 50851"] Keterys, my math example was with a not-min-maxed PC and I ignored bonus damage from use of encounter/daily powers and striker damage and multiple targets. I simplified the math to better illustrate my point. Have you ever fought a Dragon three levels above your party? Believe me, after the first hour it gets boring real fast. The +½ level to PC damage speeds up those Elite and Solo fights. Extra damage on multiple target attacks? So what? Let the Controllers feel badass. A Minion blasted for 10 damage or 25 damage is still a dead Minion. I know that removing the limits on magic item use opens it up for many kinds of abuse but if you have adult and mature players you could make a "Gentleman's Agreement" about avoiding the worst cheese. Lugging around dozens of Dwarven Armor and the like for free effects is not OK. One Daily item power use per body slot is OK. Going Nova in a big Boss fight is OK. Changing items during rests is not OK. [/QUOTE]

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