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Redundant Rogue Talents? And Major Magic.
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<blockquote data-quote="Volaran" data-source="post: 5472394" data-attributes="member: 592"><p>Please provide a rules citation for this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a very handy class feature, but does not specifically indicate that a zen archer monk can suddenly flank with his bow. It indicates that the monk can take attacks off opportunity with his bow, and indicates that he is considered to be flanking opponents with his unarmed strike. This is an important notation because the monk's unarmed strikes are not restricted to his hands</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Because the monk threatens with his whole body, it means that he can hold a weapon like a bow in both hands and and still threaten (and attack) with his feet, or other body parts. The Reflexive Shot ability simply means that he can take of opportunity with his bow, not that he gains flanking benefits when making a ranged attack. </p><p></p><p>As noted previously:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing in the Reflexive Shot ability (or the Point Blank Master feat, which the Zen Monk also gets for free) has phrasing that says their bow is considered a melee attack. It simply gives them greater versatility for using a ranged weapon in close quarters.</p><p></p><p>Would you be able to provide a specific listing to suggest that cannot use a wand with a touch spell in a flanking situation? As indicated in the flanking rules, it is important that your ally be threatening the opponent at the time of your melee attack. I was not able to find a rule in the flanking section, or the section on touch spells to suggest that this was somehow excluded.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, I was not able to find something to suggest that you would not threaten with your primary weapon (a sword for example) even if you were activating a wand with your other hand on that particular round. If you have a rules reference there, I would also appreciate it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Volaran, post: 5472394, member: 592"] Please provide a rules citation for this. This is a very handy class feature, but does not specifically indicate that a zen archer monk can suddenly flank with his bow. It indicates that the monk can take attacks off opportunity with his bow, and indicates that he is considered to be flanking opponents with his unarmed strike. This is an important notation because the monk's unarmed strikes are not restricted to his hands Because the monk threatens with his whole body, it means that he can hold a weapon like a bow in both hands and and still threaten (and attack) with his feet, or other body parts. The Reflexive Shot ability simply means that he can take of opportunity with his bow, not that he gains flanking benefits when making a ranged attack. As noted previously: Nothing in the Reflexive Shot ability (or the Point Blank Master feat, which the Zen Monk also gets for free) has phrasing that says their bow is considered a melee attack. It simply gives them greater versatility for using a ranged weapon in close quarters. Would you be able to provide a specific listing to suggest that cannot use a wand with a touch spell in a flanking situation? As indicated in the flanking rules, it is important that your ally be threatening the opponent at the time of your melee attack. I was not able to find a rule in the flanking section, or the section on touch spells to suggest that this was somehow excluded. Similarly, I was not able to find something to suggest that you would not threaten with your primary weapon (a sword for example) even if you were activating a wand with your other hand on that particular round. If you have a rules reference there, I would also appreciate it. [/QUOTE]
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