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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 80221" data-attributes="member: 834">It doesn't hurt?What if one of your player successfuly cast hold person on an enemy rogue.During the two following rounds, the rogue successfuly save against two lightning bolts cast by the sorcerer (who was simply including the rogue in a line with another opponent).On the 3rd round the evil cleric cast remove paralysis on the rogue.On the 4th round the Rogue kills a PC, possibly the sorcerer, thanks to a a flanking sneak attack.Wouldn't the deceased PC be a little annoyed by such a situation?&nbsp; The rogue should be dead!I know what you'll answer; &quot;Hey, but this is just as likely to save a PC!&quot;&nbsp; Yeah, and denying reflex save on helpless opponents is just as likely to allow for a PC victory.The difference is that one option makes sense, the other doesn't.&nbsp; And it's always more aggravating to die in an absurd scenario than in a more reasonable one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 80221, member: 834"] It doesn't hurt? What if one of your player successfuly cast hold person on an enemy rogue. During the two following rounds, the rogue successfuly save against two lightning bolts cast by the sorcerer (who was simply including the rogue in a line with another opponent). On the 3rd round the evil cleric cast remove paralysis on the rogue. On the 4th round the Rogue kills a PC, possibly the sorcerer, thanks to a a flanking sneak attack. Wouldn't the deceased PC be a [i]little[/i] annoyed by such a situation? The rogue should be dead! I know what you'll answer; "[i]Hey, but this is just as likely to save a PC![/i]" Yeah, and denying reflex save on helpless opponents is just as likely to allow for a PC victory. The difference is that one option makes sense, the other doesn't. And it's always more aggravating to die in an absurd scenario than in a more reasonable one. [/QUOTE]

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