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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9776599" data-attributes="member: 6716779">You might lije it but you can't deny it contributes to modern HP bloat though xan you? It basically doubles or tripkes your HP recovery and 25% minor action+1d6 outstrip most healing spells in pre 4E games. Wands of cure light wounds aren't hard coded in (and were also terrible).  4E had to slow tge game down as well (low damage high hp high recovery). If everything dues fast it makes tactics and roles concept pointless.  5E is high everything (except maybe initial PC hp).  I also remember 4E fans coming up with striker heavy parties with a leader to keep them going. Death is still best debuff right?</blockquote>