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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 5036528" data-attributes="member: 5889">Con is a stat I rarely see an 8 placed in...but I rarely see a 14 or better either. Its no where near its 3.5 strength.I also have noticed in my games that the biggest surge users are actually melee strikers. They don't have the defenses of defenders and they don't get back as much per surge...so they wind up spending a lot more surges. In this respect I can agree that the number of surges returned to each class might be imbalanced.Here are a couple of ideas for people who like the concept, but don't like the current implementation I have suggested.1) Just as each class gets an X amount of hitpoints per level, also give them a Y amount of surges recovered after each extended rest. Maybe fighters get 3 and clerics get 2 or something.2) You could modify the durable feat or add a new feat that allowed a class to recover +con mod surges per day....or replace there normal number with their con mod...etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 5036528, member: 5889"] Con is a stat I rarely see an 8 placed in...but I rarely see a 14 or better either. Its no where near its 3.5 strength. I also have noticed in my games that the biggest surge users are actually melee strikers. They don't have the defenses of defenders and they don't get back as much per surge...so they wind up spending a lot more surges. In this respect I can agree that the number of surges returned to each class might be imbalanced. Here are a couple of ideas for people who like the concept, but don't like the current implementation I have suggested. 1) Just as each class gets an X amount of hitpoints per level, also give them a Y amount of surges recovered after each extended rest. Maybe fighters get 3 and clerics get 2 or something. 2) You could modify the durable feat or add a new feat that allowed a class to recover +con mod surges per day....or replace there normal number with their con mod...etc. [/QUOTE]

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