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<blockquote data-quote="sniffles" data-source="post: 3412504" data-attributes="member: 30035"><p>A friend of mine who GMs several games just sent this email to Ask Wizards to clarify the spider climb spell. A couple of players in our group have perhaps been abusing it just a bit, using the druid's ability to cast personal spells on his animal companion to allow their animals to climb up walls while the druid rides the animal. The GM just wanted to pin down all the details of how the spell affects both the spellcaster and the mount/animal companion. </p><p></p><p>If this question has already been discussed elsewhere in this forum, please feel free to direct me to that thread.</p><p></p><p>Dear Ask Wizards,</p><p>Regarding Climbing and Spider Climbing;</p><p></p><p>It takes 2 hands to Climb and Spider Climb, but you can still cast spells, </p><p>and presumably punch/kick but can you attack with a weapon ?</p><p></p><p>IF you take damage while "Spider Climbing" do you still make a Climb check ?</p><p>Can you Take 10 (it says you can when rushed or threatened (10 + 8 </p><p>racial bonus for spell + STR + climb ranks) ?</p><p></p><p>Does the +8 racial bonus to Spider Climbing increase if your climb speed </p><p>increases (like Jump checks) ?</p><p></p><p>Do you "cling" to the wall while "Spider climbing" ? Does not moving </p><p>require an action to maintain your position ?</p><p></p><p>The DC to avoid falling is based on the slope of the wall, but has nothing </p><p>to do with the amount of damage taken ?</p><p>- this makes Ray of Frost pretty powerful/useful...</p><p></p><p>IF a mount is "Spider Climbing" but their rider is not, does the rider have </p><p>to do anything to hold on when going vertical or on a ceiling? ie. skill </p><p>check, move action, etc... Do they suffer any penalties ?</p><p>- it seems to mean that gravity would force them downward.</p><p></p><p>IF BOTH the mount & rider are "Spider Climbing" does the rider have to do </p><p>anything to hold on when going vertical or on a ceiling? ie. skill check, </p><p>move action, etc...</p><p>- can the rider "Spider climb" on the back of the mount to stay on ?</p><p>Does casting spider climb on yourself and your mount cause your butt to stick to the mount, or do you have to make Ride checks to stay in the saddle? </p><p></p><p>IF the mount falls what kind of extra damage do they do to the rider who </p><p>presumably falls too and is crushed underneath ?</p><p></p><p>Will an unintelligent mount (ie. a non-familiar or animal companion) even </p><p>allow itself to be ridden/climb vertically or on a ceiling ?</p><p></p><p>Can spiders or "Spider Climbers" even climb "a perfectly smooth, flat, </p><p>vertical surface" ?</p><p></p><p>IF yes, what is the DC to avoid falling if they take damage on "a perfectly smooth, flat, </p><p>vertical surface" ?</p><p></p><p>4 out of 5 "Spider climbing & Eldritch blasting" Warlocks want to know... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sniffles, post: 3412504, member: 30035"] A friend of mine who GMs several games just sent this email to Ask Wizards to clarify the spider climb spell. A couple of players in our group have perhaps been abusing it just a bit, using the druid's ability to cast personal spells on his animal companion to allow their animals to climb up walls while the druid rides the animal. The GM just wanted to pin down all the details of how the spell affects both the spellcaster and the mount/animal companion. If this question has already been discussed elsewhere in this forum, please feel free to direct me to that thread. Dear Ask Wizards, Regarding Climbing and Spider Climbing; It takes 2 hands to Climb and Spider Climb, but you can still cast spells, and presumably punch/kick but can you attack with a weapon ? IF you take damage while "Spider Climbing" do you still make a Climb check ? Can you Take 10 (it says you can when rushed or threatened (10 + 8 racial bonus for spell + STR + climb ranks) ? Does the +8 racial bonus to Spider Climbing increase if your climb speed increases (like Jump checks) ? Do you "cling" to the wall while "Spider climbing" ? Does not moving require an action to maintain your position ? The DC to avoid falling is based on the slope of the wall, but has nothing to do with the amount of damage taken ? - this makes Ray of Frost pretty powerful/useful... IF a mount is "Spider Climbing" but their rider is not, does the rider have to do anything to hold on when going vertical or on a ceiling? ie. skill check, move action, etc... Do they suffer any penalties ? - it seems to mean that gravity would force them downward. IF BOTH the mount & rider are "Spider Climbing" does the rider have to do anything to hold on when going vertical or on a ceiling? ie. skill check, move action, etc... - can the rider "Spider climb" on the back of the mount to stay on ? Does casting spider climb on yourself and your mount cause your butt to stick to the mount, or do you have to make Ride checks to stay in the saddle? IF the mount falls what kind of extra damage do they do to the rider who presumably falls too and is crushed underneath ? Will an unintelligent mount (ie. a non-familiar or animal companion) even allow itself to be ridden/climb vertically or on a ceiling ? Can spiders or "Spider Climbers" even climb "a perfectly smooth, flat, vertical surface" ? IF yes, what is the DC to avoid falling if they take damage on "a perfectly smooth, flat, vertical surface" ? 4 out of 5 "Spider climbing & Eldritch blasting" Warlocks want to know... ;) [/QUOTE]
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